Opti coat 2.0 quote. Is this a good price?
01-12-14, 02:17 PM
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Opti coat 2.0 quote. Is this a good price?
I was quoted $350 to have opti coat 2.0 applied to my car and the quote includes all the prep work. The detail shop has a good reputation and 5 star reviews on yelp. Is that a good price?
01-12-14, 03:11 PM
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If a detail shop is applying the Opti-Coat, would they not be using the professional version, "Opti-Coat Pro?" My understanding is that Opti-Coat 2.0 is the easier to apply consumer version of the product.
The Opt-Coat web site list detailers certified to use the professional version.
The Opt-Coat web site list detailers certified to use the professional version.
01-12-14, 03:18 PM
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If a detail shop is applying the Opti-Coat, would they not be using the professional version, "Opti-Coat Pro?" My understanding is that Opti-Coat 2.0 is the easier to apply consumer version of the product.
The Opt-Coat web site list detailers certified to use the professional version.
The Opt-Coat web site list detailers certified to use the professional version.
Price wise, what shop is it? You may find some detailers among the CL community.
There are a few BMW detailers that are very good... LT BMW is a high end BMW specialist autoshop, which supposedly does everything, give them a ring.
01-12-14, 03:27 PM
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If a detail shop is applying the Opti-Coat, would they not be using the professional version, "Opti-Coat Pro?" My understanding is that Opti-Coat 2.0 is the easier to apply consumer version of the product.
The Opt-Coat web site list detailers certified to use the professional version.
The Opt-Coat web site list detailers certified to use the professional version.
Let me know if you've got any other questions.
-Zach
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01-12-14, 05:29 PM
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^If that price is for a full exterior cleaning, decontamination, polish, and coating then that is a STEAL. If the detailer is not planning on doing that entire process, then I would find someone else to do the work. Coatings must be applied to a surface that is entirely clean. Any contamination or traces of wax on the surface will interfere with the coating bonding to the paint. The only way to fully ensure the paint is ready to be coated is to decontaminate and polish the surface. For reference, I am a pro installer (though I typically use CQuartz Finest for my customers seeking a premium coating), but I use OC2.0 as a lower price option for customers who do not want to pay the premium amount for a pro-level coating. My OC2.0 services start at $550 for an IS sized vehicle for a full exterior package as listed above... and that is on the low side compared to most other installers.
^You're correct... Pro Installers on listed on www.Opti-Coat.net however, Opti-Coat 2.0 is still used by many professionals as a lower cost alternative for customers who are still seeking great protection of a coating. OC Pro is a superior product, but OC2.0 is still a fantastic product and offers great protection. Any coating will be far superior to a traditional wax or sealant.
Let me know if you've got any other questions.
-Zach
^You're correct... Pro Installers on listed on www.Opti-Coat.net however, Opti-Coat 2.0 is still used by many professionals as a lower cost alternative for customers who are still seeking great protection of a coating. OC Pro is a superior product, but OC2.0 is still a fantastic product and offers great protection. Any coating will be far superior to a traditional wax or sealant.
Let me know if you've got any other questions.
-Zach
Considering how much work is involved to do proper full exterior work I would say your price is very fair perhaps even more attractive to consumers if you could start at $499 and if I could have gotten your price here from Chad I think I would just had him do my car for me. But at $800+ and especially on a brand new car it was hard for me to swallow. But now I know why Chad was so reluctant to not lower the price for even new car. See my post about scratches on new car.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...the-paint.html
By the way thanks for all your tips on proper washing technics and other detailing feedbacks.
What is the major difference between Opti-Pro and Opti-Coat 2.0? I just heard opti coat 2.0 is formulated to not dry as quickly to allow less experienced consumers to work with it better but have same protection features.
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01-12-14, 05:43 PM
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Thanks everybody for the responses. Normally, they do charge $540 for used vehicles, $425 for new vehicles. He went down to $350 because I told him that I didn't realize it was that expensive and that it exceeded my budget. I sent him a picture of my car and he said he could do it for that price. Below is the email I received stating what's included.
"I coat the headlights and tailights plus all emblems as part of the package. The package includes cleaning the body, paint correction polishing to remove as many blemishes, scratches and swirls as possible, and also to bring the paint up to the highest shine possible. after which, I wash the body down with a 15 percent IPA solution to remove the polish residue, after which, I put several coats of opticoat on the body, headlights, taillights and all the emblems. if the vehicle still has the factory painted OEM Wheels on it I can also coat those. I guarantee my work for 5 years and if during that time the coating fails through no fault of your own or others, I will come out no questions asked and replace the opticoat."
"I coat the headlights and tailights plus all emblems as part of the package. The package includes cleaning the body, paint correction polishing to remove as many blemishes, scratches and swirls as possible, and also to bring the paint up to the highest shine possible. after which, I wash the body down with a 15 percent IPA solution to remove the polish residue, after which, I put several coats of opticoat on the body, headlights, taillights and all the emblems. if the vehicle still has the factory painted OEM Wheels on it I can also coat those. I guarantee my work for 5 years and if during that time the coating fails through no fault of your own or others, I will come out no questions asked and replace the opticoat."
01-12-14, 05:53 PM
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Thanks everybody for the responses. Normally, they do charge $540 for used vehicles, $425 for new vehicles. He went down to $350 because I told him that I didn't realize it was that expensive and that it exceeded my budget. I sent him a picture of my car and he said he could do it for that price. Below is the email I received stating what's included.
"I coat the headlights and tailights plus all emblems as part of the package. The package includes cleaning the body, paint correction polishing to remove as many blemishes, scratches and swirls as possible, and also to bring the paint up to the highest shine possible. after which, I wash the body down with a 15 percent IPA solution to remove the polish residue, after which, I put several coats of opticoat on the body, headlights, taillights and all the emblems. if the vehicle still has the factory painted OEM Wheels on it I can also coat those. I guarantee my work for 5 years and if during that time the coating fails through no fault of your own or others, I will come out no questions asked and replace the opticoat."
"I coat the headlights and tailights plus all emblems as part of the package. The package includes cleaning the body, paint correction polishing to remove as many blemishes, scratches and swirls as possible, and also to bring the paint up to the highest shine possible. after which, I wash the body down with a 15 percent IPA solution to remove the polish residue, after which, I put several coats of opticoat on the body, headlights, taillights and all the emblems. if the vehicle still has the factory painted OEM Wheels on it I can also coat those. I guarantee my work for 5 years and if during that time the coating fails through no fault of your own or others, I will come out no questions asked and replace the opticoat."
I'm not sure having several coats will be beneficial or even recommended. Otherwise it looks like a great deal. Keep in mind that hardest part of this is the paint correction so you may want to see few references on that aspect of the work. I also like his 5 year warranty which I've not heard before from other detailers.
01-12-14, 05:58 PM
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Zach,
Considering how much work is involved to do proper full exterior work I would say your price is very fair perhaps even more attractive to consumers if you could start at $499 and if I could have gotten your price here from Chad I think I would just had him do my car for me. But at $800+ and especially on a brand new car it was hard for me to swallow. But now I know why Chad was so reluctant to not lower the price for even new car. See my post about scratches on new car.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...the-paint.html
By the way thanks for all your tips on proper washing technics and other detailing feedbacks.
Considering how much work is involved to do proper full exterior work I would say your price is very fair perhaps even more attractive to consumers if you could start at $499 and if I could have gotten your price here from Chad I think I would just had him do my car for me. But at $800+ and especially on a brand new car it was hard for me to swallow. But now I know why Chad was so reluctant to not lower the price for even new car. See my post about scratches on new car.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...the-paint.html
By the way thanks for all your tips on proper washing technics and other detailing feedbacks.
In general, pricing will vary greatly depending on your location. As you could imagine, some cities demand higher prices than others due to costs of owning/operating the business, avg income, etc in that area.
Thanks everybody for the responses. Normally, they do charge $540 for used vehicles, $425 for new vehicles. He went down to $350 because I told him that I didn't realize it was that expensive and that it exceeded my budget. I sent him a picture of my car and he said he could do it for that price. Below is the email I received stating what's included.
"I coat the headlights and tailights plus all emblems as part of the package. The package includes cleaning the body, paint correction polishing to remove as many blemishes, scratches and swirls as possible, and also to bring the paint up to the highest shine possible. after which, I wash the body down with a 15 percent IPA solution to remove the polish residue, after which, I put several coats of opticoat on the body, headlights, taillights and all the emblems. if the vehicle still has the factory painted OEM Wheels on it I can also coat those. I guarantee my work for 5 years and if during that time the coating fails through no fault of your own or others, I will come out no questions asked and replace the opticoat."
"I coat the headlights and tailights plus all emblems as part of the package. The package includes cleaning the body, paint correction polishing to remove as many blemishes, scratches and swirls as possible, and also to bring the paint up to the highest shine possible. after which, I wash the body down with a 15 percent IPA solution to remove the polish residue, after which, I put several coats of opticoat on the body, headlights, taillights and all the emblems. if the vehicle still has the factory painted OEM Wheels on it I can also coat those. I guarantee my work for 5 years and if during that time the coating fails through no fault of your own or others, I will come out no questions asked and replace the opticoat."
01-12-14, 06:00 PM
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Opti Coat has dedicated product for the headlights called Opti Lens. It's same as Opti Coat but has UV inhibitor to prevent discoloration. They also have dedicated product for glass which is called Opti-Glass. So I would ask him to put Opti-Glass on all your glasses, Opti Lens on your headlights, DRL, side blinkers, taillights and all the other plastic trims and Opti-Coat the rest including wheels.
I'm not sure having several coats will be beneficial or even recommended. Otherwise it looks like a great deal. Keep in mind that hardest part of this is the paint correction so you may want to see few references on that aspect of the work. I also like his 5 year warranty which I've not heard before from other detailers.
I'm not sure having several coats will be beneficial or even recommended. Otherwise it looks like a great deal. Keep in mind that hardest part of this is the paint correction so you may want to see few references on that aspect of the work. I also like his 5 year warranty which I've not heard before from other detailers.
As far as OC on glass... I would definitely recommend Opti-Glass instead.
And you are correct... multiple coats of OC are not beneficial (that is straight from Optimum).
01-12-14, 06:02 PM
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^My prices start at $500 for a consumer coating on compact cars (www.AttentiontoDetailingPeoria.com if you want to see a full list of info)... the IS is a slight increase due to added size. Believe it or not, most of my coatings are premium products (as I mentioned, I use CQuartz Finest). I do not lower the prices for new car vs. used as they will all be polished regardless of age. If the vehicle needs more extensive correction, that is an additional cost. For instance, I just coated a brand new car this weekend and it still took 12 hours to complete the job (this was a wheels off job... coated paint, wheels, trim, and head/tail lights).
In general, pricing will vary greatly depending on your location. As you could imagine, some cities demand higher prices than others due to costs of owning/operating the business, avg income, etc in that area.
^Sounds like a very good deal. Even better that he offers his own warranty on the service as Optimum does not warrant the OC2.0... and even the pro product cost a lot extra if you want a true warranty through optimum.
In general, pricing will vary greatly depending on your location. As you could imagine, some cities demand higher prices than others due to costs of owning/operating the business, avg income, etc in that area.
^Sounds like a very good deal. Even better that he offers his own warranty on the service as Optimum does not warrant the OC2.0... and even the pro product cost a lot extra if you want a true warranty through optimum.
I edited my original message with this question but it looks like you replied during my edit.
What is the major difference between Opti-Pro and Opti-Coat 2.0? I just heard opti coat 2.0 is formulated to not dry as quickly to allow less experienced consumers to work with it better but have same protection features.
01-12-14, 06:17 PM
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Do Lexus service departments at large not offer this? If it is a 12-hour+ process, I would need a courtesy loaner vehicle
Well I'm sure the Lexus dealership would contract this out, but if I went straight to the detailer I'm sure I'd be without a car the whole day
Well I'm sure the Lexus dealership would contract this out, but if I went straight to the detailer I'm sure I'd be without a car the whole day
01-12-14, 06:19 PM
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Probably cheaper to get a loaner car on your own than pay for dealer mark ups. Opti Coat is recommended to not be exposed to water for 24 hours so detailer near me to me I had to leave my car with him for over night if he did the work.
01-12-14, 06:26 PM
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Thanks Zach. Why do you say CQuartz Finest is the premium over Opti Coat?
I edited my original message with this question but it looks like you replied during my edit.
What is the major difference between Opti-Pro and Opti-Coat 2.0? I just heard opti coat 2.0 is formulated to not dry as quickly to allow less experienced consumers to work with it better but have same protection features.
I edited my original message with this question but it looks like you replied during my edit.
What is the major difference between Opti-Pro and Opti-Coat 2.0? I just heard opti coat 2.0 is formulated to not dry as quickly to allow less experienced consumers to work with it better but have same protection features.
CQF is WAY slicker than OC (pro or 2.0), it is glossier, thicker (3 microns), comes with a 2 year warranty, and is easier to apply. IMO, Cquartz Finest is the best choice for someone who is planning on properly maintaining their car to the highest level and having it polished every 2-3 years to remove any light swirls and defects that appear and then recoated. Opti-Coat is the better choice for a car owner who simply wants to have their car protected and then never mess with it again... maybe drive it through the touchless wash from time to time, but not really 'detail it' on a regular basis.
Opti-Coat 2.0 is a 'less intense' version of OC Pro... Not really sure exactly how to explain it. They both protect well, but Pro will outlast 2.0 under extreme conditions. Pro goes on thicker than 2.0 (1.5-2 microns), is more chemical resistant, has the option to include a 5 year (or lifetime if installed on brand new car at the dealership) warranty. In all reality, the average car owner who simply drives their car through the car wash on occasion would probably only get a year or two of good protection from OC2.0... those of us who know how to properly maintain the car would see more. Same goes with any coating really. Pro will last longer for those who do not maintain it.