F-sport demand is off the charts
09-20-13, 03:24 PM
#91
!! I had a manual on my G35 way back and enjoyed driving it soo much due to it despite living in Manhattan at the time !!??Lots of my friends thought i was crazy having one with the traffic each day and ohhhh having the extra pedal and wearing 4" heels
09-20-13, 04:15 PM
#92
Manual cars are not only more fun to drive, but the drivers in a manual car are more calm and collected. People who complain about traffic and manual cars are usually people who don't know how to drive a manual.
If you drive in traffic and pay attention to the road, you'll see that a lot of the idiots cutting everyone off and having some type of anger issues are mostly automatic drivers.
I mean, if all you're doing is stepping on the gas and brakes all day, yeah, you'll go crazy too. I was giving a loaner a few times and I when I got back on my 6mt, I was a lot more fun to drive.
If you drive in traffic and pay attention to the road, you'll see that a lot of the idiots cutting everyone off and having some type of anger issues are mostly automatic drivers.
I mean, if all you're doing is stepping on the gas and brakes all day, yeah, you'll go crazy too. I was giving a loaner a few times and I when I got back on my 6mt, I was a lot more fun to drive.
09-20-13, 06:32 PM
#93
I do think it's way overpriced when it cuts off a lot of features. No wonder I don't see any F Sport around in San Jose.
Here are all the features that cut off:
1. Power Mirror
2. Fog Light
3. Memory Seat
4. Cool Seat
5. Power Shade
6. Head Up Display (must be in option)
7. F-Sport Brakes
Here are all the features that cut off:
1. Power Mirror
2. Fog Light
3. Memory Seat
4. Cool Seat
5. Power Shade
6. Head Up Display (must be in option)
7. F-Sport Brakes
The F-Sport, considering its engine size, transmission, and drivetrain, it still undercuts all of luxury sport sedans in its segment, so if you take this into account, the price is justified.
Additionally, the F-Sport package is a lot more than just cosmetics. There is a great deal of additional performance parts, interior upgrades, and transmission
For the IS250 on the other hand, I might see the argument there as its much smaller and less powerful engine doesn't quite make up for its MPG advantage and price tag when compared to the 350.
09-21-13, 01:21 AM
#94
Manual cars are not only more fun to drive, but the drivers in a manual car are more calm and collected. People who complain about traffic and manual cars are usually people who don't know how to drive a manual.
If you drive in traffic and pay attention to the road, you'll see that a lot of the idiots cutting everyone off and having some type of anger issues are mostly automatic drivers.
I mean, if all you're doing is stepping on the gas and brakes all day, yeah, you'll go crazy too. I was giving a loaner a few times and I when I got back on my 6mt, I was a lot more fun to drive.
If you drive in traffic and pay attention to the road, you'll see that a lot of the idiots cutting everyone off and having some type of anger issues are mostly automatic drivers.
I mean, if all you're doing is stepping on the gas and brakes all day, yeah, you'll go crazy too. I was giving a loaner a few times and I when I got back on my 6mt, I was a lot more fun to drive.
For me the CVT is perfect. And the EV mode.
And i do know how to drive a M/T properly.
09-21-13, 10:55 AM
#97
If you are not aware, there seems to be a big difference between what Lexus forecasted for demand compared to actual demand. I believe on the last sales call it was around a 45% take rate. I assume the forecast was between 25-30% so that is a HUGE jump. Dealers are stating F-sports are flying off lots and they don't have enough to sell.
With my eyes around town, I would say I have seen more F-sports than non. The same issue happened with the GS (lower % rates) and the Camry SE.
Mike
With my eyes around town, I would say I have seen more F-sports than non. The same issue happened with the GS (lower % rates) and the Camry SE.
Mike
09-21-13, 11:00 AM
#98
09-21-13, 06:40 PM
#99
You shouldn't bother quoting the 87% number; it's misleading since it's specific to month-over-month for the month that the car was released. If 20 cars were sold in June, it only takes 37 cars in July to hit 87%.
There was built up demand for the car -- many people holding off purchasing until the new one came out. In other words, demand the month before would have been unusually low, and demand the month of the release was very high. This would be an important metric if it were year-over-year, not month-over-month.
Notice we haven't heard the increase from August over July, only July over June. I suspect since the July supply was likely sold out, even if the August supply sold out it wasn't 87% larger. Don't get me wrong, I think that demand for the new IS is hot. They're selling every one they get. But the 87% number isn't as impressive as it sounds.
There was built up demand for the car -- many people holding off purchasing until the new one came out. In other words, demand the month before would have been unusually low, and demand the month of the release was very high. This would be an important metric if it were year-over-year, not month-over-month.
Notice we haven't heard the increase from August over July, only July over June. I suspect since the July supply was likely sold out, even if the August supply sold out it wasn't 87% larger. Don't get me wrong, I think that demand for the new IS is hot. They're selling every one they get. But the 87% number isn't as impressive as it sounds.
http://www.cheersandgears.com/topic/...a-motor-sales/
09-22-13, 01:54 AM
#100
09-22-13, 02:15 AM
#101
I drive in traffic everyday on the 5 and the 55. No problems at all. Really no difference when compared to an automatic.
Difference is, on a manual, we can actually rest here and there instead of pressing on the brakes.
The only thing that sucks are the hills. I hate it with idiots follow way to damn close on hills. I always use my ebrake on the hills just in case.
09-22-13, 03:47 AM
#102
I never seen anyone with a manual car complain about driving a manual in traffic. It's always the guy driving an auto using that as an excuse. lol
I drive in traffic everyday on the 5 and the 55. No problems at all. Really no difference when compared to an automatic.
Difference is, on a manual, we can actually rest here and there instead of pressing on the brakes.
The only thing that sucks are the hills. I hate it with idiots follow way to damn close on hills. I always use my ebrake on the hills just in case.
I drive in traffic everyday on the 5 and the 55. No problems at all. Really no difference when compared to an automatic.
Difference is, on a manual, we can actually rest here and there instead of pressing on the brakes.
The only thing that sucks are the hills. I hate it with idiots follow way to damn close on hills. I always use my ebrake on the hills just in case.
09-22-13, 05:34 AM
#104
09-22-13, 07:46 AM
#105