missing options on F Sport
#31
I hope you can make it happen Hoovey. I was disappointed to find limited options at 1st and was gonna get a regular IS until I learned that I had to special order even something like Adaptive Cruise Control. But I own a business -- I get why they're doing what they're doing. It's nothing personal -- it's just business.
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I hope you can make it happen Hoovey. I was disappointed to find limited options at 1st and was gonna get a regular IS until I learned that I had to special order even something like Adaptive Cruise Control. But I own a business -- I get why they're doing what they're doing. It's nothing personal -- it's just business.
I understand business, but I also understand doing the right thing. That said I'm sure you do the best you can for your customers which may (or may not) be easier for a small business owner than some large corporation like Toyota/Lexus
#33
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In my 2006 IS or 2011 RX, the behaviour is not what you described. In my case, the reverse auto-tilt is activated when you have the switch in either R or L position. In the middle position, the feature is disabled.
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#35
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What's so counter about our arguments? OP proposed "Missing Options on F-Sport". Seems pretty relevant to me. Genesis is a great value, but I've said for years that it's fluff when it comes to the nit and grit. Questionable build quality etc.. This is still Lexus which has learned from the early 2006/2007 L-Finesse models that they can't cut corners. CT and 2013 GS really sparked a resurgence in quality for Lexus. Materials have improved significantly on the GS, whereas the ES suffers poorly for a "Luxury" titled car. 3IS is more or less on par with the industry (looking at you 3-Sereis), but the 3IS seems more about that goal of "most fun to drive in segment" rather than uphold that L badge and original qualities. Point is they should of kept both. Sit in the new Q50 and a 3IS back to back and there is far more luxury in the Q50. Can't owners have both Luxury and Sport not forced to pick one?
Q50 has better quality on the finishing of the door panels. However, for the centre cluster and the control dial (equivalent to the Lexus remote touch/LDA), I find the Q50 uses too much shiny black plastic. It makes me remind of cheap computer desktop tower in shiny black plastic. So for the interior, I may give it a tie between these two contenders.
However, the interior of 3IS as a whole still appeals more to me as it looks more sporty and lively. There is some great qualities unspoken in the 3IS interior. Or maybe I am biased since I came from 2IS and this is a Lexus forum.
Last edited by AndyL; 07-02-13 at 10:46 PM.
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I too am extremely frustrated at the lack of options on the F-Sport. I understand there's no such thing as the "perfect" car, but the 3IS, at least for this first model year makes way too many compromises IMO. Very few options, obvious cost cutting in several areas and a dated power plant.
I'm still hopeful that the lack of options will be addressed when Lexus introduces it's new engines. I still don't think much, if anything will be done with some of the cost cutting in certain areas, but if I can have the options I want coupled with a shiny new, modern power plant, that would be enough for me to drive my 2IS into the dealership and drive my 3IS out of there.
I'm still hopeful that the lack of options will be addressed when Lexus introduces it's new engines. I still don't think much, if anything will be done with some of the cost cutting in certain areas, but if I can have the options I want coupled with a shiny new, modern power plant, that would be enough for me to drive my 2IS into the dealership and drive my 3IS out of there.
#38
I am in love with the new IS after finally seeing 5 of them in person in one day last weekend at my Lexus dealer.
I live in Arizona.....ventilated seats are a HUGE deal for me.
Wanna know the only thing I don't like about the F-Sport...????
Am I the only person here who absolutely HATES the Nuluxe crap???? It is hot (granted, I do live in Arizona) and looks so ridiculously cheap with the deviated stitching...ugh....disgusting. I have had a few loaner ES's/CT's with it and I hate it.
I wish I could have the F-Sport in white with that gorgeous red interior in leather....
I hate to say it...but when I replace my 2010 IS 250 AWD next year I think I am going to have to go with a IS 350, but with the Luxury package instead of the F-Sport....which sucks because the F-Sport is beautiful.....
Yes, I realize BMW, Audi, MBZ all have their fake leather....but at least they give their clients an OPTION to buy it with their entry level vehicles.
I live in Arizona.....ventilated seats are a HUGE deal for me.
Wanna know the only thing I don't like about the F-Sport...????
Am I the only person here who absolutely HATES the Nuluxe crap???? It is hot (granted, I do live in Arizona) and looks so ridiculously cheap with the deviated stitching...ugh....disgusting. I have had a few loaner ES's/CT's with it and I hate it.
I wish I could have the F-Sport in white with that gorgeous red interior in leather....
I hate to say it...but when I replace my 2010 IS 250 AWD next year I think I am going to have to go with a IS 350, but with the Luxury package instead of the F-Sport....which sucks because the F-Sport is beautiful.....
Yes, I realize BMW, Audi, MBZ all have their fake leather....but at least they give their clients an OPTION to buy it with their entry level vehicles.
Last edited by 355F1; 07-02-13 at 11:56 PM.
#40
To those of you with issues with the 2014 IS F-sport. DON’T DRIVE IT! Because when you do – it’s instant love and you’ll be magically willing to overlook it’s flaws.
Acura is regarded the smart luxury budget entry level luxury price leader. The MSRP for the TL-SHAWD is $46,280.
You get ventilated seats
BSM
6 spd tranny
All wheel drive
Tilt outside rear view mirrors
Memory seats
Leather seats
You don’t get
Power tilt steering
Autodim outside mirrors
Puddle lights
Rain sensing wipers
Adaptive cruise
Sound proofing
Useful nav and voice commands
I could go on but you see where I’m going with this – it’s all about production costs, historical data on what sells where, etc.
It won’t get any better if the yen continues to rebound vs. the dollar. If you want features at a certain price point you may have to buy a Sonata F-sport
Acura is regarded the smart luxury budget entry level luxury price leader. The MSRP for the TL-SHAWD is $46,280.
You get ventilated seats
BSM
6 spd tranny
All wheel drive
Tilt outside rear view mirrors
Memory seats
Leather seats
You don’t get
Power tilt steering
Autodim outside mirrors
Puddle lights
Rain sensing wipers
Adaptive cruise
Sound proofing
Useful nav and voice commands
I could go on but you see where I’m going with this – it’s all about production costs, historical data on what sells where, etc.
It won’t get any better if the yen continues to rebound vs. the dollar. If you want features at a certain price point you may have to buy a Sonata F-sport
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I can witness what you said about the comparison between a Q50 and a 3IS in terms of perceived interior quality. I spent some time in a dealership preview of Q50.
Q50 has better quality on the finishing of the door panels. However, for the centre cluster and the control dial (equivalent to the Lexus remote touch/LDA), I find the Q50 uses too much shiny black plastic. It makes me remind of cheap computer desktop tower in shiny black plastic. So for the interior, I may give it a tie between these two contenders.
However, the interior of 3IS as a whole still appeals more to me as it looks more sporty and lively. There is some great qualities unspoken in the 3IS interior. Or maybe I am biased since I came from 2IS and this is a Lexus forum.
Q50 has better quality on the finishing of the door panels. However, for the centre cluster and the control dial (equivalent to the Lexus remote touch/LDA), I find the Q50 uses too much shiny black plastic. It makes me remind of cheap computer desktop tower in shiny black plastic. So for the interior, I may give it a tie between these two contenders.
However, the interior of 3IS as a whole still appeals more to me as it looks more sporty and lively. There is some great qualities unspoken in the 3IS interior. Or maybe I am biased since I came from 2IS and this is a Lexus forum.
Agreed there are lots of black shiny plastics on the Q50 center console.