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Old 04-19-13, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
ironic that lexus continues to put a 'lexus' badge on their cars in Japan

Why?

There's no Toyota equivalent even in its home country of Japan. In Toyota's/Japanese public's mind, Lexus is a higher tier compared to Toyota.

Just like Audi sells alongside VW in Germany, BMW sells alongside Mini etc...
Old 04-19-13, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by natnut
Why?

There's no Toyota equivalent even in its home country of Japan. In Toyota's/Japanese public's mind, Lexus is a higher tier compared to Toyota.

Just like Audi sells alongside VW in Germany, BMW sells alongside Mini etc...
Dont think so. I think this is a new trend to seperate and globalize the Lexus brand, to your point, like Audi.

Here is the Wikipedia page on the IS:
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The Lexus IS is a series of entry-level luxury cars / compact executive cars sold by Lexus since 1998. The IS was introduced as an entry-level sport model slotted below the ES in the Lexus lineup (and outside of North America, the Lexus GS). The IS was originally sold under the Toyota Altezza nameplate in Japan (the word "altezza" is Italian for "highness") until the introduction of the Lexus brand and the second generation Lexus IS design in 2006. The Altezza name is still used at times to refer to chromed car taillights like those fitted to the first generation model, known as 'Altezza lights' or 'Lexus-style' lights.[1]
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Also the GS was called the Toyota Aristo in Japan. Did not bother searching for the wiki on that.
Old 04-19-13, 09:46 AM
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Old 04-19-13, 10:27 AM
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great post

seriously the whole lexus treatment in japan is out of this world
Old 04-19-13, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
seriously the prices of lexus in japan is out of this world
fixed.

it's about a third more expensive.

u.s. gs350 f-sport, $53+k
japan gs350 f-sport, $70+k

still, chump change compared to singapore
Old 04-19-13, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mayuj
Dont think so. I think this is a new trend to seperate and globalize the Lexus brand, to your point, like Audi.

Here is the Wikipedia page on the IS:
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The Lexus IS is a series of entry-level luxury cars / compact executive cars sold by Lexus since 1998. The IS was introduced as an entry-level sport model slotted below the ES in the Lexus lineup (and outside of North America, the Lexus GS). The IS was originally sold under the Toyota Altezza nameplate in Japan (the word "altezza" is Italian for "highness") until the introduction of the Lexus brand and the second generation Lexus IS design in 2006. The Altezza name is still used at times to refer to chromed car taillights like those fitted to the first generation model, known as 'Altezza lights' or 'Lexus-style' lights.[1]
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Also the GS was called the Toyota Aristo in Japan. Did not bother searching for the wiki on that.
This was before Lexus was launched in Japan in 2005-2006. The GS and IS are no longer Altezza or Aristo, it stopped being that way with the 3GS and 2IS.
Old 04-19-13, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
fixed.

it's about a third more expensive.

u.s. gs350 f-sport, $53+k
japan gs350 f-sport, $70+k

still, chump change compared to singapore
i am from hong kong, so i am not that "stunned" at all
Old 04-19-13, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
fixed.

it's about a third more expensive.

u.s. gs350 f-sport, $53+k
japan gs350 f-sport, $70+k

still, chump change compared to singapore
If I could pay $70k fo GS350 F-Sport here.... woa. Instead GS450h F-Sport is $136k :-).

Also, when we talk about Japan, they have Crown and Mark-X, which are 30% less expensive and have same powertrains, but less complicated suspensions and lower end interiors...

I guess some would have Toyota kill Crown and Mark-X just so Lexus sells better :-)
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna View Post
fixed.

it's about a third more expensive.

u.s. gs350 f-sport, $53+k
japan gs350 f-sport, $70+k

still, chump change compared to singapore
i am from hong kong, so i am not that "stunned" at all
Norway is one of the most expensive countries in the world to buy a car in.
The 350 isn't for sale here, simply because it would cost about $130+k
A fully laoded IS300h f-sport cost about $ 90k

A fully Gs450H F-sport costs about $185k.

Somehow the japanese prices seems very reasonable
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LFA is amazing! One of my favorite cars out there period!
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Originally Posted by natnut
Why?

There's no Toyota equivalent even in its home country of Japan. In Toyota's/Japanese public's mind, Lexus is a higher tier compared to Toyota.

Just like Audi sells alongside VW in Germany, BMW sells alongside Mini etc...
My thought process has nothing to do with toyota. They removed the Lexus badge on cars bound for the US because the lexus symbol is already so well known that its repetitive. In other words, people know a Lexus when they see one.

Its ironic that in Japan they still need to put it on there because the car is Japanese and the Japanese should know a Lexus even better
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
fixed.

it's about a third more expensive.

u.s. gs350 f-sport, $53+k
japan gs350 f-sport, $70+k

still, chump change compared to singapore
My ISF is $130k in australia
Old 04-20-13, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
fixed.

it's about a third more expensive.

u.s. gs350 f-sport, $53+k
japan gs350 f-sport, $70+k

still, chump change compared to singapore
Urgh. Don't remind me......
Old 04-20-13, 04:12 AM
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My dream trip is to a Tokyo Lexus dealer. I went out of my way to buy a built in Japan '12 RX-350and just recently my Wife's'12 IS-250(I know all IS's are built in Japan). I would sell the house to buy an LFA.
I guess that's why my Wife won't let me go to Japan....lol.
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Originally Posted by RXSF
ironic that lexus continues to put a 'lexus' badge on their cars in Japan
What's "ironic" about it?

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