2014 IS 350 (non F Sport) dealer unveiling, my thoughts
#46
Why would I not be hypercritical? P.S, your video actually shows a great example of the new climate control design being nothing more than gimmicky and also likely to frustrate buyers.
I had a jaguar XF in which they tried desperately to use surfaces like that to do things such as lighting, glove compartment release, etc. It was a great idea except for the fact it was wrought with issues (didnt respond to half the touches); and is also completely useless if you have gloves on. I am not sure if the lexus climate control mechanism will be useless with gloves, but i am hoping they thought ahead for that.
I had a jaguar XF in which they tried desperately to use surfaces like that to do things such as lighting, glove compartment release, etc. It was a great idea except for the fact it was wrought with issues (didnt respond to half the touches); and is also completely useless if you have gloves on. I am not sure if the lexus climate control mechanism will be useless with gloves, but i am hoping they thought ahead for that.
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Since you are making direct jabs, here we go, try to keep up. Hate to burst the bubble of ignorance in which you exist.
open google
search for "resistive vs capacap active touch screen"
read the differences
try to comprehend them
read again
keep reading
....
now, take a guess at which screen my "90's era touch screen" is made with, and why it works when your hands are gloved.
now, again, try to follow -
guess what the HVAC controls in the new IS use? Hint - the opposite of the "90'S era display." (cap active, which means they won't work reliably if anything is on your hands)
if you are going to make antagonistic jabs make sure you arent so completely oblivious on the subject matter.
FYI - i will not be responding to any more of your commentary.
#48
I agree with you on everything, really disappointed.
And to the guy who said the bmw F30 has cheap finish, the F30 interior is for me way more attractive and clean for the eye while the new IS is way too complicated for me it's like 5 different interiors put together. Just look at the photo. I think they did an okay job on the GS interior, why did they have to mess the is up like that?
I can't even believe they still put such old style gear shifter in the new IS? didn't they see other car manufacturers have been replacing those by innovative touch or button systems. Look at BMW, Jaguar...
also are they serious putting the same 1980 sunroof AGAIN ? really can't believe that
every other car brand has nice panorama sunroof systems with a good wind deflector that opens in the front. My sunroof on my current IS has terrible turbulence noise because there is no deflector
And to the guy who said the bmw F30 has cheap finish, the F30 interior is for me way more attractive and clean for the eye while the new IS is way too complicated for me it's like 5 different interiors put together. Just look at the photo. I think they did an okay job on the GS interior, why did they have to mess the is up like that?
I can't even believe they still put such old style gear shifter in the new IS? didn't they see other car manufacturers have been replacing those by innovative touch or button systems. Look at BMW, Jaguar...
also are they serious putting the same 1980 sunroof AGAIN ? really can't believe that
every other car brand has nice panorama sunroof systems with a good wind deflector that opens in the front. My sunroof on my current IS has terrible turbulence noise because there is no deflector
#49
if you ever have been F30, you will know what I am talking about... maybe you are only looking at the pics? Too bad you cant sit in photoshopped interior with million light sources :-).
F30 got 8 points for fit an finish in BMW loving Car and Driver vs 10 for IS350 F-Sport. They stated IS350 has better quality interior.
F30 got 8 points for fit an finish in BMW loving Car and Driver vs 10 for IS350 F-Sport. They stated IS350 has better quality interior.
#50
And of course capacitive can work with gloves (working gloves?)... its not an screen, sensor is under it and configured differently.
I am only responding to you since you believe your IS is somehow made from gold... its not. It has plenty of issues and you can read about many of them in IS forums here, including squeaks and rattles and outdated multimedia.
I dont see anything better in old IS than new... well, maybe door storage is nicer in old one than new one.... but there are at least 30 other things I can name that are better in new one than old one. At least.
#51
I agree with you on everything, really disappointed.
And to the guy who said the bmw F30 has cheap finish, the F30 interior is for me way more attractive and clean for the eye while the new IS is way too complicated for me it's like 5 different interiors put together. Just look at the photo. I think they did an okay job on the GS interior, why did they have to mess the is up like that?
I can't even believe they still put such old style gear shifter in the new IS? didn't they see other car manufacturers have been replacing those by innovative touch or button systems. Look at BMW, Jaguar...
also are they serious putting the same 1980 sunroof AGAIN ? really can't believe that
every other car brand has nice panorama sunroof systems with a good wind deflector that opens in the front. My sunroof on my current IS has terrible turbulence noise because there is no deflector
And to the guy who said the bmw F30 has cheap finish, the F30 interior is for me way more attractive and clean for the eye while the new IS is way too complicated for me it's like 5 different interiors put together. Just look at the photo. I think they did an okay job on the GS interior, why did they have to mess the is up like that?
I can't even believe they still put such old style gear shifter in the new IS? didn't they see other car manufacturers have been replacing those by innovative touch or button systems. Look at BMW, Jaguar...
also are they serious putting the same 1980 sunroof AGAIN ? really can't believe that
every other car brand has nice panorama sunroof systems with a good wind deflector that opens in the front. My sunroof on my current IS has terrible turbulence noise because there is no deflector
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I agree with you on everything, really disappointed.
And to the guy who said the bmw F30 has cheap finish, the F30 interior is for me way more attractive and clean for the eye while the new IS is way too complicated for me it's like 5 different interiors put together. Just look at the photo. I think they did an okay job on the GS interior, why did they have to mess the is up like that?
I can't even believe they still put such old style gear shifter in the new IS? didn't they see other car manufacturers have been replacing those by innovative touch or button systems. Look at BMW, Jaguar...
also are they serious putting the same 1980 sunroof AGAIN ? really can't believe that
every other car brand has nice panorama sunroof systems with a good wind deflector that opens in the front. My sunroof on my current IS has terrible turbulence noise because there is no deflector
And to the guy who said the bmw F30 has cheap finish, the F30 interior is for me way more attractive and clean for the eye while the new IS is way too complicated for me it's like 5 different interiors put together. Just look at the photo. I think they did an okay job on the GS interior, why did they have to mess the is up like that?
I can't even believe they still put such old style gear shifter in the new IS? didn't they see other car manufacturers have been replacing those by innovative touch or button systems. Look at BMW, Jaguar...
also are they serious putting the same 1980 sunroof AGAIN ? really can't believe that
every other car brand has nice panorama sunroof systems with a good wind deflector that opens in the front. My sunroof on my current IS has terrible turbulence noise because there is no deflector
Fit and Finish and material quality has nothing to do with design which is subjective.
You prefer the "design" of the F30 better than the 3IS. Thats cool. But the materials in the F30 are subpar to it's competition (especially) for the price. Not that the C-Class, 3IS, A4 are miles better, but they are better.
#53
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if you ever have been F30, you will know what I am talking about... maybe you are only looking at the pics? Too bad you cant sit in photoshopped interior with million light sources :-).
F30 got 8 points for fit an finish in BMW loving Car and Driver vs 10 for IS350 F-Sport. They stated IS350 has better quality interior.
F30 got 8 points for fit an finish in BMW loving Car and Driver vs 10 for IS350 F-Sport. They stated IS350 has better quality interior.
Completely agree. The F30 makes the F10 irrelevant EXCEPT for the horrible fit and finish of the interior. I should know. I test drove a Sport Line 335i and was quite impressed by it safe the downmarket interior.
And BTW, the silly design decision to stick the monitor high up on the 3 series dash accomplishes two things :
1) It makes the dash looks like it has a cheap aftermarket GPS install
2) say hello to sunlight glare
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