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The 2014 Lexus IS is expected to make its official debut at the 2013 NAIAS in Detroit

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Old 08-09-12, 12:31 PM
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The IS can keep the same engine, but it needs a better transmission (faster shifts and torque converter lock up from 2nd gear on up like in the IS-F) as an option for the 3.5 L, as well as sportier seats.

If they don't add those things, I don't see any reason why I'd need to upgrade from my '07 IS350 w/ X-pkg & nav. All I'd be getting is a different look, which to me, really isn't worth spending 45k.
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Old 08-09-12, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Infra
The IS can keep the same engine, but it needs a better transmission (faster shifts and torque converter lock up from 2nd gear on up like in the IS-F) as an option for the 3.5 L, as well as sportier seats.

If they don't add those things, I don't see any reason why I'd need to upgrade from my '07 IS350 w/ X-pkg & nav. All I'd be getting is a different look, which to me, really isn't worth spending 45k.
well thats coming for sure since it is already in the 2013 GS... but it should handle very different to current IS and thats why you "could" want to upgrade...
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Old 08-10-12, 12:12 PM
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Any comparison of sales numbers for ISx50 and it's competition?
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Old 08-10-12, 04:49 PM
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lexus must have come and realized (maybe a long time ago) that most people dont care about what chassis is underneath the body as long as the look is fresh and MPG and horsepower are both bumped through some drivetrain update
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Don't know if anyone's thought about this, but will the next IS surely debut new engines? The '06 GS was denied the 3.5 liter V6 that debuted on the production IS350 in late 2005, yet also the '07 ES received it as well as the '07 RX. Maybe a 3.6 liter IS360? Everyone should monitor patent and trademark filings from Toyota Jidosha K.K. as all these car-related media outlets can miss things that have been hidden in plain sight for weeks to months.
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Old 08-11-12, 07:01 AM
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should replace the IS250 with the 245 hp engine that was in the GS300 before it became the GS350. The redline is low in the 2GR-FSE only 6500, they could just increase it to 7k to increase the power.
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Originally Posted by Infra
The IS can keep the same engine, but it needs a better transmission (faster shifts and torque converter lock up from 2nd gear on up like in the IS-F) as an option . . ..
I agree, if Lexus wants the car to be a driver's car they need a transmission that gives the driver full control. The transmission also needs rev matching on downshift. E.g., the Scion FR-S / Sub BRZ has this (not sure about the torque lock part on the Scion) or a 6 MT option.
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Old 08-11-12, 10:10 AM
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One of my anticipated cars. Could be in the market for a new car for myself in 3 years.
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this sounds really stupid.. but why don't they put the 3.0l from the 2006 gs300?

I always thought that was a nice engine. Good power and MPG.
And it would've given the is250 a nice boost in the power department, while not threatening the is350..

i can't imagine how underpowered the 2014 is250 (if it is a 2.5l) would feel compared to it's competitors, especially if the vehicle weight increases even more..

I will be in the market to buy a new car in 2014.. and just like in the previous years, is250 will feel underpowered/overpriced, and is350, just too damn fast for me
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Old 08-11-12, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cmk1
Don't know if anyone's thought about this, but will the next IS surely debut new engines? The '06 GS was denied the 3.5 liter V6 that debuted on the production IS350 in late 2005, yet also the '07 ES received it as well as the '07 RX. Maybe a 3.6 liter IS360? Everyone should monitor patent and trademark filings from Toyota Jidosha K.K. as all these car-related media outlets can miss things that have been hidden in plain sight for weeks to months.
There will be no new engine for the IS on the launch, however there will be new engines in the 3rd model year for the new design.
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Old 08-11-12, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ydooby
All I can tell you is that the IS has lost many sales to the 3-series for this very reason alone because it happened around me for several times already, be it the E46 or the E90 (don't know about the F30 but I'm sure it's not less spacious). If the main competition offers such flexibility and Lexus doesn't, then it's Lexus's problem because they've excluded themselves from being considered by those who have needs to travel with friends occasionally but don't want to give up sporty driving and can't afford the GS just yet. I've ridden in the right backseats (not behind the driver) of both the IS250 and the E46 330i for extended trips and the one in the IS was a much more uncomfortable experience and I'm rather average in stature at 5'10".
Agreed. We just had a kid and the IS is getting tight in trunk space and the back seat gets eaten up by a baby seat, with the front passenger loosing leg space. I will replace my IS next year, if this new car doesn't address the issue, I will be looking at a G37, s60 or Verano.
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Old 08-11-12, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
this sounds really stupid.. but why don't they put the 3.0l from the 2006 gs300?

I always thought that was a nice engine. Good power and MPG.
And it would've given the is250 a nice boost in the power department, while not threatening the is350..

i can't imagine how underpowered the 2014 is250 (if it is a 2.5l) would feel compared to it's competitors, especially if the vehicle weight increases even more..

I will be in the market to buy a new car in 2014.. and just like in the previous years, is250 will feel underpowered/overpriced, and is350, just too damn fast for me
I have given up on Lexus engine decisions. There is no method to the madness
 
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
this sounds really stupid.. but why don't they put the 3.0l from the 2006 gs300?

I always thought that was a nice engine. Good power and MPG.
And it would've given the is250 a nice boost in the power department, while not threatening the is350..
your first comment was insightful

The 3.0l is heavy as heck, thirsty, and an inline 6 that would likely neither fit nor offer any boost in actual performance.
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Old 08-11-12, 02:15 PM
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The 2JZ-GE was not in the 2006 GS300, it was in the 1IS. 2006 GS300 was the 3GR-FE also found in the middle east 2IS IS300
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Old 08-11-12, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
your first comment was insightful

The 3.0l is heavy as heck, thirsty, and an inline 6 that would likely neither fit nor offer any boost in actual performance.
Incorrect. The 2006 GS had the new V-6 rated at 240hp....Hoovey is on the money.
 


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