IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013) Discussion about the 2006+ model IS models

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Old 02-18-15, 06:21 PM
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I purchased a used 2013 Is 250 over the weekend. Now I'm trying to do some things to it and i'm getting mixed up as to what generation I have. I assume its a 2nd generation, but when looking at the wiring diagram for an alarm their site says its only compatible up to the 2012. Then I started looking to add a oem navigation "mine didn't have it" and i'm seeing 2012-2013 navigation's on ebay with hdd. Then looking on the site I see Official ISx50 NON-Nav to Nav Swap no mention of a hdd. Any help or guidance will be appreciated in advance.
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You might need a production date, you can find it on your vin decal on your driver side b pillar
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It's because each year things change. You have a 2nd gen. Body parts should be compatible with 2011-2013. Wiring will change a little due to year and options that it is equipped with but the main wiring bundles should be the same.
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You definitely have the 2nd Gen,

The Navi thread should be for Base models that dont have Navi, and they are installing an aftermarket one from the company "FlyAudio" which would be the most popular aftermarket navi for our cars. You should save all the Diagrams From

is.sewellparts.com

Before their website closes on March 1.
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2nd Generation covers 2006-2013 for the ISx50 Sedan (2008-2014 for IS F, 2010-2015 for IS C). There were 3 primary types of navigation used in the ISx50 Sedan, 2006-2009 (Gen 5 DVD), 2010-2012 (Gen 6 HD) and 2013 (Gen 7 HD). Within those ranges there are also cosmetic differences and IS250/350 climate control differences as well as Mark Levinson or not, so ultimately there are approximately 16 different types of navigation units used on the ISx50 sedan.

The wiring for each primary type with vary.

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Originally Posted by Icy350
You definitely have the 2nd Gen,

The Navi thread should be for Base models that dont have Navi, and they are installing an aftermarket one from the company "FlyAudio" which would be the most popular aftermarket navi for our cars. You should save all the Diagrams From

is.sewellparts.com


Before their website closes on March 1.
I'm aiming for the oem navigation, to me the flyaudio interface feels cheap. Thanks for the website but i couldn't find any wiring diagram just part numbers to oem parts.

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2nd Generation covers 2006-2013 for the ISx50 Sedan (2008-2014 for IS F, 2010-2015 for IS C). There were 3 primary types of navigation used in the ISx50 Sedan, 2006-2009 (Gen 5 DVD), 2010-2012 (Gen 6 HD) and 2013 (Gen 7 HD). Within those ranges there are also cosmetic differences and IS250/350 climate control differences as well as Mark Levinson or not, so ultimately there are approximately 16 different types of navigation units used on the ISx50 sedan.

The wiring for each primary type with vary.

Jeff
To simply put it what your saying is in my situation I would need to look for a 2013 navigation without ml to be compatible with what i have? Or does changing out the unit along with some wiring give me the Ml system, I would assume I would also have to change out the amp? What I'm simply looking for Is to add the oem Navigation with external dvd. I've seen in the past if you have external dvd your able to splice into the harness and give yourself a video input for backup camera, or any other sort of video input.
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No factory navigation is going to plug right into your car, the wiring is always different between navigation and non-navigation. That said, the non-navigation wiring stayed relatively consistent between 2006-2013, with some minor changes in 2010 to add Bluetooth and USB functionality.

None of the factory navigation systems use an external DVD, it's always internal to the unit (behind the clock lens on 2006-2009 units, HD on 2010+ units).

Basically what you're going to need is a swap guide for swapping in factory navigation into a 2010+ car, I can't recall if I've seen anyone do that specific swap before, I think most people doing the factory nav swap were using the older 2006-2009 cars, but like I said, the wiring is very similar, but chances are you'll either: 1) Need to swap in an older 2006-2009 DVD-based nav unit to use an existing guide. or 2) Figure out how to swap in a HD-based unit, because I don't think I've seen any guides on how to do that particular swap.

Separate from all that: You will want to stay non-ML. Mark Levinson is a very different system and setup, that swap is a completely different beast (and would require different door panels for example).

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lange
No factory navigation is going to plug right into your car, the wiring is always different between navigation and non-navigation. That said, the non-navigation wiring stayed relatively consistent between 2006-2013, with some minor changes in 2010 to add Bluetooth and USB functionality.

None of the factory navigation systems use an external DVD, it's always internal to the unit (behind the clock lens on 2006-2009 units, HD on 2010+ units).

Basically what you're going to need is a swap guide for swapping in factory navigation into a 2010+ car, I can't recall if I've seen anyone do that specific swap before, I think most people doing the factory nav swap were using the older 2006-2009 cars, but like I said, the wiring is very similar, but chances are you'll either: 1) Need to swap in an older 2006-2009 DVD-based nav unit to use an existing guide. or 2) Figure out how to swap in a HD-based unit, because I don't think I've seen any guides on how to do that particular swap.

Separate from all that: You will want to stay non-ML. Mark Levinson is a very different system and setup, that swap is a completely different beast (and would require different door panels for example).

Jeff
I'm aware nothing is going to plug right in. I have seen a few threads about swapping non nav to nav but like you said they were on older years. Do you have any idea or recommendations as to where or who I can start with? I seen some guy named egusman who might be familiar but he has had no activity in over a year.
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