IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013) Discussion about the 2006+ model IS models

What do people mean with "real" traction control disable on 06 vs newer IS's?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-16-15, 02:14 PM
  #1  
MikeZero
Rookie
Thread Starter
 
MikeZero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Ca
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default What do people mean with "real" traction control disable on 06 vs newer IS's?

Im looking at 06-08 350's and notice the biggest difference is that the 06 doesnt have a "real" TC disable option. But, they do have the button to disable it to the right of the steering wheel. Whats this mean?
Old 01-16-15, 02:24 PM
  #2  
metaleckz
Racer
iTrader: (9)
 
metaleckz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: CA
Posts: 1,834
Received 32 Likes on 29 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MikeZero
Im looking at 06-08 350's and notice the biggest difference is that the 06 doesnt have a "real" TC disable option. But, they do have the button to disable it to the right of the steering wheel. Whats this mean?
You have to do the "pedal dance" to turn it off.
The button will only disable it till you reach 30 or 40mph

Well im jk i dont have 06 is350
Old 01-16-15, 03:08 PM
  #3  
Blizzak350
Driver School Candidate
iTrader: (1)
 
Blizzak350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

metaleckz is right.. I have an 06 and in order to turn it off is doing the "pedal dance" at start up..
it is a real PITA and a feature I'd pay a little to implement in my own car.. but wouldn't let it steer me away from buying myself into an IS!
Old 01-16-15, 03:36 PM
  #4  
redspencer
OG Member
iTrader: (1)
 
redspencer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Central FL
Posts: 1,851
Received 529 Likes on 314 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Blizzak350
metaleckz is right.. I have an 06 and in order to turn it off is doing the "pedal dance" at start up..
it is a real PITA and a feature I'd pay a little to implement in my own car.. but wouldn't let it steer me away from buying myself into an IS!
Supposedly, if you swap out your 06 Skid Control ECU with an 07+ Skid Control ECU, it will allow you to fully disable Traction Control with the long button press.
Old 01-16-15, 03:53 PM
  #5  
getafewliv
Lexus Test Driver
 
getafewliv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: BC
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by redspencer
Supposedly, if you swap out your 06 Skid Control ECU with an 07+ Skid Control ECU, it will allow you to fully disable Traction Control with the long button press.
Is there anyone who has actually done this? I have debated doing it, but I feel like I read something about an error light being lit up because of the swap.

Also, to buy the ECU new is ridiculously expensive. Cheapest used I have seen was around $100.
Old 01-16-15, 05:42 PM
  #6  
Gville350
Moderator
iTrader: (10)
 
Gville350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 11,568
Likes: 0
Received 430 Likes on 384 Posts
Default

^Yes, several have. Actually the cheapest I've seen is $200 on ebay. You have to look for the "VT" symbol on the box if I remember right :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-IS350-ABS-Skid-Control-Module-8954053250-8954053251-8954053290-/300872241520?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ALexus%7CModel%3AIS350&hash=item460d621170&vxp=mtr
Now, about the OP's concern...yes, the '06 can disable the T/C for the duration of your driving cycle. You just need to do the infamous "pedal dance" before driving. HOWEVER, like I do quite often, if you hit the T/C button on the '06 from a dead stop, it'll stay off until you hit ~30mph. It helps you get out of a hole well or get around a corner aggressively from a stop.

Last edited by Gville350; 01-16-15 at 05:46 PM.
Old 01-17-15, 08:31 AM
  #7  
bird333
Driver
 
bird333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: TN
Posts: 71
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Is this only on 350 or does it affect '06 250's also? What is this 'pedal dance' you guys are talking about?
Old 01-17-15, 10:14 AM
  #8  
MikeZero
Rookie
Thread Starter
 
MikeZero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Ca
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So does all this mean that the ONLY differences between an 06 and and 07 350 is the traction control disable and the shark fin xm antennae?
Old 01-17-15, 04:59 PM
  #9  
jdubbsISF
Driver
iTrader: (2)
 
jdubbsISF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by redspencer
Supposedly, if you swap out your 06 Skid Control ECU with an 07+ Skid Control ECU, it will allow you to fully disable Traction Control with the long button press.
Originally Posted by getafewliv
Is there anyone who has actually done this? I have debated doing it, but I feel like I read something about an error light being lit up because of the swap.

Also, to buy the ECU new is ridiculously expensive. Cheapest used I have seen was around $100.
Yes, I have done this. I purchased a used 07+ ECU from eBay and installed it in my 06. Works perfectly, can hold the traction off button and it turns off traction/vsc/vdim completely, instead of doing the pedal dance. Worth EVERY penny (around $250). Install was super easy, took me 5-10min.

Yes, you will get a flashing red exclamation point when the traction is off as well as a "VSC TEST MODE" in text. It does not go away until you turn traction control back on. You can press the DISP button and it will show your mileage/temperature etc for about 5 seconds, then go back to "VSC TEST MODE". It's not bad at all and I'd recommend it for all 06 owners.
Old 01-28-15, 04:53 PM
  #10  
getafewliv
Lexus Test Driver
 
getafewliv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: BC
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jdubbs350
Yes, I have done this. I purchased a used 07+ ECU from eBay and installed it in my 06. Works perfectly, can hold the traction off button and it turns off traction/vsc/vdim completely, instead of doing the pedal dance. Worth EVERY penny (around $250). Install was super easy, took me 5-10min.

Yes, you will get a flashing red exclamation point when the traction is off as well as a "VSC TEST MODE" in text. It does not go away until you turn traction control back on. You can press the DISP button and it will show your mileage/temperature etc for about 5 seconds, then go back to "VSC TEST MODE". It's not bad at all and I'd recommend it for all 06 owners.
Good to know that the "VSC test mode" is only when traction control is off. When I heard about this, I wasn't sure if it meant that it was on all the time.

Makes me think I should have picked up the unit for $100 that I saw on eBay. Oh well... I will find one eventually.
Old 01-28-15, 05:09 PM
  #11  
FSportIS
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (13)
 
FSportIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: CA
Posts: 2,191
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I advice don't swap the ECU because when you do the pedal dance on 06 IS350, you can still other information on the dash board such as what gear your car is at which is very helpful.

With the ECU where you disable it by holding 5 seconds (like the one on my IS250 2012), yes, you disable the traction control but you will always see the "TRAC OFF" text on the dashboard and no matter what information you choose to display, you will always see that "TRAC OFF" which is very annoying and useless. I made a thread about this not too long ago
Old 01-28-15, 08:50 PM
  #12  
mike33
Intermediate
iTrader: (1)
 
mike33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: fl
Posts: 405
Received 55 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FSportIS
I advice don't swap the ECU because when you do the pedal dance on 06 IS350, you can still other information on the dash board such as what gear your car is at which is very helpful.

With the ECU where you disable it by holding 5 seconds (like the one on my IS250 2012), yes, you disable the traction control but you will always see the "TRAC OFF" text on the dashboard and no matter what information you choose to display, you will always see that "TRAC OFF" which is very annoying and useless. I made a thread about this not too long ago
You can still do the "pedal dance" after the ecu swap if you want to be able to have the display function operate as normal... The nice thing about the ecu swap is disabling traction control at a moments notice if you get an urge...
Old 01-28-15, 09:30 PM
  #13  
liqB
Driver
 
liqB's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Does anyone know if the TRAC button on a 2006 IS250MT acts the same? i.e upto 30mph or else do the pedal dance.
Old 01-29-15, 09:18 AM
  #14  
FSportIS
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (13)
 
FSportIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: CA
Posts: 2,191
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Pedal dance is required to completely disable the traction control.
Old 01-29-15, 09:21 AM
  #15  
FSportIS
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (13)
 
FSportIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: CA
Posts: 2,191
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mike33
You can still do the "pedal dance" after the ecu swap if you want to be able to have the display function operate as normal... The nice thing about the ecu swap is disabling traction control at a moments notice if you get an urge...
Yeah, it works. However, I tried pedal dance on my IS250 2012 and still have the display showing "TRAC OFF" all the times.

I agree with you on the convenience of having the ECU, you can disable so quickly right at the stop light without having to restart the engine and do the pedal dance


Quick Reply: What do people mean with "real" traction control disable on 06 vs newer IS's?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:29 PM.