VRTuned IS350 Auto Flash: Convo with Vivid Racing Owner
11-17-14, 05:25 AM
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I agree. I'm one of those that paid for the PPE headers, Invidia mid and Greddy exhaust. With the limited options for performance you have to get whats available. I'm waiting on a little more research and results to decide whether to get one!
11-17-14, 10:54 AM
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11-18-14, 01:59 PM
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12-23-14, 05:55 AM
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Personally I think the owner is actually pretty business savvy, you guys are just looking at this the wrong way. Everyone here is assuming the owner truly believes his product works, which is clearly not the case and why he wont allow a test group outside of the confines of his control to test this. If he lets everyone here do 3rd party testing when he knows for a fact the tune doesnt stick long term, he is actually shooting himself in the foot as Clublexus.com has far greater page rank on google than his vividracing.com. The first thing everyone will see when they search "is350 vivid racing chip" will be the countless threads of people posting 3rd party dyno testing from Club Lexus, while his proprietary/biased in-house testing will be buried on the 3rd or 4th page of the results, and his business in this market will certainly crash.
12-23-14, 05:59 AM
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Personally I think the owner is actually pretty business savvy, you guys are just looking at this the wrong way. Everyone here is assuming the owner truly believes his product works, which is clearly not the case and why he wont allow a test group outside of the confines of his control to test this. If he lets everyone here do 3rd party testing when he knows for a fact the tune doesnt stick long term, he is actually shooting himself in the foot as Clublexus.com has far greater page rank on google than his vividracing.com. The first thing everyone will see when they search "is350 vivid racing chip" will be the countless threads of people posting 3rd party dyno testing from Club Lexus, while his proprietary/biased in-house testing will be buried on the 3rd or 4th page of the results, and his business in this market will certainly crash.
What a "REAL" business savvy person would do is stand behind their product and get CLUBLEXUS to test his product for easy marketing IF, and only IF the product DID work. Unfortunately, vivid loses this time around. Clublexus +1, Vivid 0.
12-23-14, 08:22 AM
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So what you are saying is people should believe him and buy what ever vivid spits out? Sounds like a moron to me. Why would you even market a product that doesn't "stick long term?"
What a "REAL" business savvy person would do is stand behind their product and get CLUBLEXUS to test his product for easy marketing IF, and only IF the product DID work. Unfortunately, vivid loses this time around. Clublexus +1, Vivid 0.
What a "REAL" business savvy person would do is stand behind their product and get CLUBLEXUS to test his product for easy marketing IF, and only IF the product DID work. Unfortunately, vivid loses this time around. Clublexus +1, Vivid 0.
His point is that the business owner does not want club lexus members to find out if it truly works or not. If it is eposed on club lexus that his product is a fraud; he will lose all his potential customers. Anybody that searches Google for "is350 vivid racing tune" will show clublexus posts at the top of the search engine based on the popularity of this website. These potential customers will find out the truth about vivid's tune and no longer purchase the product, thus vivid will lose the potential income.
As of right now, it is currently working in vivid racing's favor since nobody knows 100% sure if the product is a bust, well, we do but some of us are in denial since we have been praying for an affordable tuning option for many years. For Vivid, this works in their favor since there aren't countless dyno sheets proving their product is a scam.
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12-23-14, 08:32 AM
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LOL, I am sorry but, judging by your summary of his post, I don't think you understand his point.
His point is that the business owner does not want club lexus members to find out if it truly works or not. If it is eposed on club lexus that his product is a fraud; he will lose all his potential customers. Anybody that searches Google for "is350 vivid racing tune" will show clublexus posts at the top of the search engine based on the popularity of this website. These potential customers will find out the truth about vivid's tune and no longer purchase the product, thus vivid will lose the potential income.
As of right now, it is currently working in vivid racing's favor since nobody knows 100% sure if the product is a bust, well, we do but some of us are in denial since we have been praying for an affordable tuning option for many years. For Vivid, this works in their favor since there aren't countless dyno sheets proving their product is a scam.
His point is that the business owner does not want club lexus members to find out if it truly works or not. If it is eposed on club lexus that his product is a fraud; he will lose all his potential customers. Anybody that searches Google for "is350 vivid racing tune" will show clublexus posts at the top of the search engine based on the popularity of this website. These potential customers will find out the truth about vivid's tune and no longer purchase the product, thus vivid will lose the potential income.
As of right now, it is currently working in vivid racing's favor since nobody knows 100% sure if the product is a bust, well, we do but some of us are in denial since we have been praying for an affordable tuning option for many years. For Vivid, this works in their favor since there aren't countless dyno sheets proving their product is a scam.