19x10 19x11 +10 with just a roll and some camber?
09-03-14, 04:12 PM
#16
If they don't fit, make them fit. It's not the offsets that will cause you to ruin your fenders, it's your driving.
The only time I did fender damage was when I trusted someone else to roll my fenders and didn't understand the cars limits. When you have the car on jack stands yourself you'll appreciate just where you will run into issues, just where you need to roll and pull more, and then be able to drive the car within it's limits.
There's a guy out there running 19x12 19x13 on a bagged ISF, stock body. There are people with far more aggressive specs even than that out there in the car world. Don't be afraid, just don't be dumb.
The only time I did fender damage was when I trusted someone else to roll my fenders and didn't understand the cars limits. When you have the car on jack stands yourself you'll appreciate just where you will run into issues, just where you need to roll and pull more, and then be able to drive the car within it's limits.
There's a guy out there running 19x12 19x13 on a bagged ISF, stock body. There are people with far more aggressive specs even than that out there in the car world. Don't be afraid, just don't be dumb.
09-03-14, 04:19 PM
#17
In my own experience 18-20x10 +anything lower then 25 is going to make contact with the unibody at full lock turns, I didn't have it cambered out and it was a bit lower offset. But your going to need really good fender work (and Mariano can back me up here), talk to Anthony Lezada at Vex motorsports he can help you a lot.
19x9.5 19x10 +12
09-04-14, 02:35 PM
#20
Btw, I was test fitting for my new wheels today and would like to put some rumors to bed.
19x10.5 +22 work emotion CR Ultimate
Super deep concave profile, stock UCA.
Perfectly flush with a fender roller pull, plus clears IS350 brakes and UCA.
My new front specs, which I also test fitted today with the aid of spacers, will utilize an aftermarket UCA, and is more aggressive, but could be done without it. No professional bodywork. Yet.
It's not the size of the wheel in the fight, but the size of the fight in the wheel.
19x10.5 +22 work emotion CR Ultimate
Super deep concave profile, stock UCA.
Perfectly flush with a fender roller pull, plus clears IS350 brakes and UCA.
My new front specs, which I also test fitted today with the aid of spacers, will utilize an aftermarket UCA, and is more aggressive, but could be done without it. No professional bodywork. Yet.
It's not the size of the wheel in the fight, but the size of the fight in the wheel.
Last edited by stewb10; 09-04-14 at 02:40 PM.
09-04-14, 03:16 PM
#21
Btw, I was test fitting for my new wheels today and would like to put some rumors to bed.
19x10.5 +22 work emotion CR Ultimate
Super deep concave profile, stock UCA.
Perfectly flush with a fender roller pull, plus clears IS350 brakes and UCA.
My new front specs, which I also test fitted today with the aid of spacers, will utilize an aftermarket UCA, and is more aggressive, but could be done without it. No professional bodywork. Yet.
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It's not the size of the wheel in the fight, but the size of the fight in the wheel.
19x10.5 +22 work emotion CR Ultimate
Super deep concave profile, stock UCA.
Perfectly flush with a fender roller pull, plus clears IS350 brakes and UCA.
My new front specs, which I also test fitted today with the aid of spacers, will utilize an aftermarket UCA, and is more aggressive, but could be done without it. No professional bodywork. Yet.
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It's not the size of the wheel in the fight, but the size of the fight in the wheel.
09-04-14, 04:38 PM
#23
If they don't fit, make them fit. It's not the offsets that will cause you to ruin your fenders, it's your driving.
The only time I did fender damage was when I trusted someone else to roll my fenders and didn't understand the cars limits. When you have the car on jack stands yourself you'll appreciate just where you will run into issues, just where you need to roll and pull more, and then be able to drive the car within it's limits.
There's a guy out there running 19x12 19x13 on a bagged ISF, stock body. There are people with far more aggressive specs even than that out there in the car world. Don't be afraid, just don't be dumb.
The only time I did fender damage was when I trusted someone else to roll my fenders and didn't understand the cars limits. When you have the car on jack stands yourself you'll appreciate just where you will run into issues, just where you need to roll and pull more, and then be able to drive the car within it's limits.
There's a guy out there running 19x12 19x13 on a bagged ISF, stock body. There are people with far more aggressive specs even than that out there in the car world. Don't be afraid, just don't be dumb.
to the OP:
19x10/19x11 +10 is going to be way too aggressive on stock body. you will need body work on these cars to pull that off. a simple pull and roll wont be nearly enough, even with hella hella camber and stretch
09-05-14, 02:12 AM
#24
Just incase you wanna do the more aggressive setup still. Since the 2IS and 3GS have very similar fenders.. Maybe I can help you out.
My last setup, I ran a 19x9.5 +15 / 19x10.5 +15 with 225/35/19 255/35/19 (kind of meaty) with -3/-5.5 camber no issues other than shaving front and rear fenders. I have rear Megan arms. 2 upper camber + 1 toe arm. The rear can go to about -6.. I was tucking rear tire cleanly in the rear and can have ppl sit in the back. Front I was about tucking top of tire. Can turn fully and easily still.
Basically that was a 19x10 +21 and 19x11 +21. In order to run +10, you'll need to run to run 225/245 with a really good alignment, you can make +10 work.
My new setup which isn't here yet will be 19x10 +25 and 19x11 +20.. running a bit safer in the front cause I'm going to do 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 this time + I have my front Megan camber arm ready
I'm not too much of a fan of lots of stretch.. rather keep replacing rear tires than have a bead pop.
What you'll need:
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.2 Upper Arm (Back ordered for another month, most important arm)
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.1 Upper Arm
Megan Racing Rear Toe Arm
Megan Racing Front Upper Camber Arm
REALLY GOOD fender shave for rear, good shave/roll for the front.
Alignment - 3.75, -6 camber if you're slammed.
Andrew, I can source the parts for you if you like. I helped you when I was at Sonic MS
My last setup, I ran a 19x9.5 +15 / 19x10.5 +15 with 225/35/19 255/35/19 (kind of meaty) with -3/-5.5 camber no issues other than shaving front and rear fenders. I have rear Megan arms. 2 upper camber + 1 toe arm. The rear can go to about -6.. I was tucking rear tire cleanly in the rear and can have ppl sit in the back. Front I was about tucking top of tire. Can turn fully and easily still.
Basically that was a 19x10 +21 and 19x11 +21. In order to run +10, you'll need to run to run 225/245 with a really good alignment, you can make +10 work.
My new setup which isn't here yet will be 19x10 +25 and 19x11 +20.. running a bit safer in the front cause I'm going to do 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 this time + I have my front Megan camber arm ready
I'm not too much of a fan of lots of stretch.. rather keep replacing rear tires than have a bead pop.What you'll need:
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.2 Upper Arm (Back ordered for another month, most important arm)
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.1 Upper Arm
Megan Racing Rear Toe Arm
Megan Racing Front Upper Camber Arm
REALLY GOOD fender shave for rear, good shave/roll for the front.
Alignment - 3.75, -6 camber if you're slammed.
Andrew, I can source the parts for you if you like. I helped you when I was at Sonic MS
09-05-14, 12:36 PM
#25
Just incase you wanna do the more aggressive setup still. Since the 2IS and 3GS have very similar fenders.. Maybe I can help you out.
My last setup, I ran a 19x9.5 +15 / 19x10.5 +15 with 225/35/19 255/35/19 (kind of meaty) with -3/-5.5 camber no issues other than shaving front and rear fenders. I have rear Megan arms. 2 upper camber + 1 toe arm. The rear can go to about -6.. I was tucking rear tire cleanly in the rear and can have ppl sit in the back. Front I was about tucking top of tire. Can turn fully and easily still.
Basically that was a 19x10 +21 and 19x11 +21. In order to run +10, you'll need to run to run 225/245 with a really good alignment, you can make +10 work.
My new setup which isn't here yet will be 19x10 +25 and 19x11 +20.. running a bit safer in the front cause I'm going to do 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 this time + I have my front Megan camber arm ready I'm not too much of a fan of lots of stretch.. rather keep replacing rear tires than have a bead pop.
What you'll need:
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.2 Upper Arm (Back ordered for another month, most important arm)
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.1 Upper Arm
Megan Racing Rear Toe Arm
Megan Racing Front Upper Camber Arm
REALLY GOOD fender shave for rear, good shave/roll for the front.
Alignment - 3.75, -6 camber if you're slammed.
Andrew, I can source the parts for you if you like. I helped you when I was at Sonic MS
My last setup, I ran a 19x9.5 +15 / 19x10.5 +15 with 225/35/19 255/35/19 (kind of meaty) with -3/-5.5 camber no issues other than shaving front and rear fenders. I have rear Megan arms. 2 upper camber + 1 toe arm. The rear can go to about -6.. I was tucking rear tire cleanly in the rear and can have ppl sit in the back. Front I was about tucking top of tire. Can turn fully and easily still.
Basically that was a 19x10 +21 and 19x11 +21. In order to run +10, you'll need to run to run 225/245 with a really good alignment, you can make +10 work.
My new setup which isn't here yet will be 19x10 +25 and 19x11 +20.. running a bit safer in the front cause I'm going to do 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 this time + I have my front Megan camber arm ready
I'm not too much of a fan of lots of stretch.. rather keep replacing rear tires than have a bead pop.What you'll need:
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.2 Upper Arm (Back ordered for another month, most important arm)
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.1 Upper Arm
Megan Racing Rear Toe Arm
Megan Racing Front Upper Camber Arm
REALLY GOOD fender shave for rear, good shave/roll for the front.
Alignment - 3.75, -6 camber if you're slammed.
Andrew, I can source the parts for you if you like. I helped you when I was at Sonic MS
09-05-14, 05:05 PM
#26
Just incase you wanna do the more aggressive setup still. Since the 2IS and 3GS have very similar fenders.. Maybe I can help you out.
My last setup, I ran a 19x9.5 +15 / 19x10.5 +15 with 225/35/19 255/35/19 (kind of meaty) with -3/-5.5 camber no issues other than shaving front and rear fenders. I have rear Megan arms. 2 upper camber + 1 toe arm. The rear can go to about -6.. I was tucking rear tire cleanly in the rear and can have ppl sit in the back. Front I was about tucking top of tire. Can turn fully and easily still.
Basically that was a 19x10 +21 and 19x11 +21. In order to run +10, you'll need to run to run 225/245 with a really good alignment, you can make +10 work.
My new setup which isn't here yet will be 19x10 +25 and 19x11 +20.. running a bit safer in the front cause I'm going to do 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 this time + I have my front Megan camber arm ready I'm not too much of a fan of lots of stretch.. rather keep replacing rear tires than have a bead pop.
What you'll need:
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.2 Upper Arm (Back ordered for another month, most important arm)
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.1 Upper Arm
Megan Racing Rear Toe Arm
Megan Racing Front Upper Camber Arm
REALLY GOOD fender shave for rear, good shave/roll for the front.
Alignment - 3.75, -6 camber if you're slammed.
Andrew, I can source the parts for you if you like. I helped you when I was at Sonic MS
My last setup, I ran a 19x9.5 +15 / 19x10.5 +15 with 225/35/19 255/35/19 (kind of meaty) with -3/-5.5 camber no issues other than shaving front and rear fenders. I have rear Megan arms. 2 upper camber + 1 toe arm. The rear can go to about -6.. I was tucking rear tire cleanly in the rear and can have ppl sit in the back. Front I was about tucking top of tire. Can turn fully and easily still.
Basically that was a 19x10 +21 and 19x11 +21. In order to run +10, you'll need to run to run 225/245 with a really good alignment, you can make +10 work.
My new setup which isn't here yet will be 19x10 +25 and 19x11 +20.. running a bit safer in the front cause I'm going to do 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 this time + I have my front Megan camber arm ready
I'm not too much of a fan of lots of stretch.. rather keep replacing rear tires than have a bead pop.What you'll need:
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.2 Upper Arm (Back ordered for another month, most important arm)
Megan Racing Rear Adj. No.1 Upper Arm
Megan Racing Rear Toe Arm
Megan Racing Front Upper Camber Arm
REALLY GOOD fender shave for rear, good shave/roll for the front.
Alignment - 3.75, -6 camber if you're slammed.
Andrew, I can source the parts for you if you like. I helped you when I was at Sonic MS
i currently run a 19x11 and 265/30 rear tire setup. even with roll and pull and -5 degrees of camber its barely fitting for a stock body setup. plus my car is slammed, so down to a +10, thats not going to work stock body, unless his car is stock height.
ive seen 19x11 +20 with a 245/35 on the rear of a is250 stock body and it barely fit as well. i have megan rear camber arms and maxed out, i barely got to -5 camber
This 19x11 rear with 265/30 tire and -5 camber. So another 15mm past that... Not happening on stock body unless the OP wants to try like -10 camber
Last edited by jdmSW20; 09-05-14 at 06:01 PM.
09-05-14, 06:10 PM
#27
on a 19x11 +10 sure it wil work in the rear with fender work
i currently run a 19x11 and 265/30 rear tire setup. even with roll and pull and -5 degrees of camber its barely fitting for a stock body setup. plus my car is slammed, so down to a +10, thats not going to work stock body, unless his car is stock height.
ive seen 19x11 +20 with a 245/35 on the rear of a is250 stock body and it barely fit as well. i have megan rear camber arms and maxed out, i barely got to -5 camber
This 19x11 rear with 265/30 tire and -5 camber. So another 15mm past that... Not happening on stock body unless the OP wants to try like -10 camber
i currently run a 19x11 and 265/30 rear tire setup. even with roll and pull and -5 degrees of camber its barely fitting for a stock body setup. plus my car is slammed, so down to a +10, thats not going to work stock body, unless his car is stock height.
ive seen 19x11 +20 with a 245/35 on the rear of a is250 stock body and it barely fit as well. i have megan rear camber arms and maxed out, i barely got to -5 camber
This 19x11 rear with 265/30 tire and -5 camber. So another 15mm past that... Not happening on stock body unless the OP wants to try like -10 camber
09-06-14, 12:45 AM
#30
Front is a tad bit aggressive, but nothing a 225 or 235 won't fix.