ndk83

Ive searched and cant seem to find a definitive answer:

Do Varstoens ES2 19x9.5+22 clear the regular IS350 front brakes?

I've read that these wheels dont clear the IS350 Fsport BBK's, but i cant find anything definitive regarding the regular breaks. If they dont clear, and i decide to go with the +30 offset, what is the smallest spacer i can run that will clear the breaks with?


I know +12 wouldnt require spacers, but:
-I dont want to install camber plates
-I drive aggressively
-where i live, I cannot legally lower my car as low as lets say this guy:

ndk83

If i were to go +12 offsets

I roll and pull my fenders (more so than they are now) and cut the fender tab (right now just bent out the way)
and I wont be able to find tires locally smaller than a 225/35/19


Would i be ok? I dont want to be constantly rubbing, i can, and have been dealing with rubbing on dips and hard turns, but i have to take clients in my car and cannot be rubbing at the slightest of imperfections in the road.


My car as it sighs now:
specs
BC racing shocks + Swift springs
19x8.5 +45 (plus 25mm spacer)
19x9.5 +45 (plus 30mm spacer)
tires:225/35/19 and 255/35/19

Offspring

iTrader: (3)

No they don't . I had es2 varstoen 19x9.5 +30 & 19x10.5 +30.

The front brakes wouldn't clear and had to buy a 10mm spacer. Since my front fender was not pulled the tire stuck out alot.

I was told I needed a high disc wheel .

I have an 06 is350

ndk83

Did the +30 offset wheel w a 10mm spacer clear the brake?
Cause running a +20 would be easier than trying to run a +12

ndk83

So how did HKS350 fit big brakes and Varrstoenes ES2.2.2 on his car?????
his specs were 19x9.5,10.55 +22
I could be wrong, but he isnt running a camber kit and his wheels dont poke out wide than a +22

nbrhd

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i put IS350 brakes on my IS250 this weekend and can't seem to find a definitive answer about +22 clearing or not. i'm tempted to just order +22 and grind the caliper slightly if necessary. i refuse to run a spacer.

laobo979

iTrader: (5)

If you get the +22 just run the 3-5mm space. That not big of enough change that you will need longer lugs. Varrstoen +22 don't clear bbk. Other like Volks will.

Offspring

iTrader: (3)

Yes I cleared it with the 10 mm spacer by wasn't about all that. At +20 I needed a nice pull on the fender something I wasn't willing to do at the time.

I also was only able to get 3.5 turns on my lugs. Some said it was good enough but I didn't want to risk it. I would advise longer lugs.

ndk83

On a +22 I was told to run a 15, im pretty sure a 10 would work, cant find a definitive answer about a 5mm, cause even w 5 ur down to +17, where as if u run +30 and go w a 10mm as mentioned above it it should be easier.

guys have succesfully run +12 offset but they either all have camber arms (if they needed them or not) or are running super low creating natural camber, neither of which im prepared to do

ndk83

Well I have a full set of extended lug bolts, so not worried about that, now I just gotta make a decision of play it safe (offset wise) and run +30 and 10mm spacer or run whrels w out a spacet at+12 and ro some heavy fender work. Part of the reason of wanting new wheels was because I didnt want to run spacers. But thank you, uve actually answered the question and given me an option that will work the best

laobo979

iTrader: (5)

I think your confuse here cause if a +22 don't work then your gonna need more than 10mm on the +30. To get that +12 offset they say to fit.with offspring suggestion I would consider if he was running varrstoen or a different brand. As I stated not all wheel are made the same even with same spec. Wheel disk play a factor to if it clears bbk or not. By the way Offspring has a 250 not 350 with bbk.

ndk83

I think shaving the brakes is the riskest option. Its not clear what clearance u need and u run the risk of ruining ur brakes if u mess up. A 5mm H&R spacer would b alot safer than shaving down ur brakes, as would getting + 12 wheel and shaving pulling and rolling ur fenders and associated tabs

laobo979

iTrader: (5)

Looking online I think they might clear with the +22 now. Best to contact varrstoen them self tho.http://www.wrongfitmentcrew.com/foru...fsmith-s-IS350

ndk83

+12 definately clear, thats the only offset that clears 100%. doesnt meant i have to have a 10mm spacer to clear a +22. I read some of Offsprings trials and tribulations here and he stated that a 5mm spacer didntt clear the caliper but a 10mm did on a +30 rim. So at offsets of +25 it didnt work, but at +20 it did. So its somewhere in between those numbers for a +30 rim. Now with a +22 rim it should clear w a +5mm spacer, alternatively, its also still possible that a+22 rim could clear as well, but unless someone who actually tried it confirms it, im not will to take that chance ( id rather not run a spacer)

Thats whats confusing me, it appears that a +22 rim might just work (and would b the ideal scenario for me), however Varrstoen and the distributor have said it would not. The thing thats throwing me off is that there is a few cases of people running +22 wheels but there is no mention of them running a spacer. this can be because they dont want to admit it, or just forgot to, or the publications r choosing to omit that spacers were used. Its all very confusing and frustrating

ndk83

Id also like to add that IMO the notion of the +22 rim not clearing could have started when some dude with an IS350 F-sport BBK upgrade couldnt get the +22 to clear, and that became a +22 rim wont clear a regular IS350 BBK.

Thats my conspiracy theory atleast. I want it to fit goddamit.


EDIT: I pm'ed the guy to find out exactly what he meant by the +22 wheel wont clear the BBK