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Old 10-10-12, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sango
Yes, correct for AWD you can since the car was designed to run all around the same.

The RWD, not quite. Youc can technically put 225's in the back to make them all around but then the odo would not be quite accurate the revolutions is off.. Unfortunately the spedometer cannot be reprogrammed to take in account the different tire; if it could I would probably would consider going all around.
I agree I would not run 225/40/18 on the rears because it is more than a 3% difference in tire diameter and thus odo reading. However, if you ran 225/45/18 in the rear its only 0.2% difference, which is means the odo will only be off by 120 miles for every 60,000 miles driven on winters. An acceptable difference for the better winter traction IMHO.

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
255/40-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.8in 775 0.0%
225/45-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.6in 777 -0.2%
225/40-18 3.5in 12.5in 25.1in 78.8in 804 -3.6%
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Originally Posted by NimaM
So, do you have another set of rims for your bliazzaks or you just mount them on your current rims? I probably will get some bliazzaks but don't wanna get a new set of rims...
I don't but will soon for next summer as I am getting 19" IS-F wheels for my summer tires. With the current stock rims, I'm just wearing the stock summer tires out because the Bridgestone ER33 tires are notorious for road noise.

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I agree I would not run 225/40/18 on the rears because it is more than a 3% difference in tire diameter and thus odo reading. However, if you ran 225/45/18 in the rear its only 0.2% difference, which is means the odo will only be off by 120 miles for every 60,000 miles driven on winters. An acceptable difference for the better winter traction IMHO.

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
255/40-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.8in 775 0.0%
225/45-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.6in 777 -0.2%
225/40-18 3.5in 12.5in 25.1in 78.8in 804 -3.6%
Yes true. They maybe able to buy a set of 17" wheel as well and try to go with tire sizes to minimize the diameter difference and go for the smoother ride.
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Originally Posted by NimaM
I also have a set of Dunlop Sport Maxx tires on my RWD IS350 and I assume I need to get a set of winter tires, but I don't want to get another set of rims. Is there any downside to mounting and dismounting tires on rims other than the cost of mount and balance? Is that going to affect life of rims or tires?
I'm no expert, but here is what one source said about it (found this from an article in the globe and mail):
"Understand that mounting tires on any wheel is very stressful on the bead and sidewall. The process of mounting and un-mounting creates the risk of tearing the bead and possible sidewall distortion. I wanted to keep this to a minimum so the only answer was to mount them once."
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Originally Posted by SeanIS350
Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
255/40-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.8in 775 0.0%
225/45-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.6in 777 -0.2%
225/40-18 3.5in 12.5in 25.1in 78.8in 804 -3.6%
What would running 225/40 - 18 front and 235/40 -18 rear do?
Do you think this setup with DWS's (year-round) would create a noticeable drop in handling?
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Originally Posted by x2lacrosse
What would running 225/40 - 18 front and 235/40 -18 rear do?
Do you think this setup with DWS's (year-round) would create a noticeable drop in handling?
The idea is to keep the same tire size all around, if you are going to go stagger anyway, then just go with OEM size. Based on the above, for 18" wheels, 225/45 would be the way to go all around then, as it would keep the rear size close to the OEM circumference, while keeping the front and rear width identical.
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Originally Posted by My0gr81
The idea is to keep the same tire size all around, if you are going to go stagger anyway, then just go with OEM size. Based on the above, for 18" wheels, 225/45 would be the way to go all around then, as it would keep the rear size close to the OEM circumference, while keeping the front and rear width identical.
Well, I would like to drop down from 255 in the chance that I do drive in snow. I've read that the narrower the tire, the better the snow capability.
Since the rear wheels are 1/2 inch wider, I'd like to stretch the tire as little as possible, thus going to 235. I'd go to only 245, but would there be a point (for snow traction)?
Since I'm doing a swap to DWS's, these will stay on the car all the time so I was wondering if the reduction in rear contact patch would noticeably degrade the handling.
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Here you go:

255/40-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.8in 775 0.0%

235/40-18 3.7in 12.7in 25.4in 79.8in 794 -2.4%

235/45-18 4.2in 13.2in 26.3in 82.7in 766 1.1%
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Originally Posted by SeanIS350
Here you go:

255/40-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.8in 775 0.0%

235/40-18 3.7in 12.7in 25.4in 79.8in 794 -2.4%

235/45-18 4.2in 13.2in 26.3in 82.7in 766 1.1%
How about the 17" options?
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Originally Posted by SeanIS350
Here you go:

255/40-18 4.0in 13.0in 26.0in 81.8in 775 0.0%

235/40-18 3.7in 12.7in 25.4in 79.8in 794 -2.4%

235/45-18 4.2in 13.2in 26.3in 82.7in 766 1.1%
Thanks for your legwork, much appreciated.

So going w/ 235/40 - 18 rears; when my Odo reads 97, 600 miles, it's actually been driven 100, 000?? If so, that's pretty nice. Score one for just a little more resale value
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Does anyone have a pic of a 225/40 - 18 (or 235) tire mounted on the 18 x 8.5 OEM wheel?
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Originally Posted by Sango
How about the 17" options?
Here is the links gents... Knock yourselves out:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
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Originally Posted by x2lacrosse
Does anyone have a pic of a 225/40 - 18 (or 235) tire mounted on the 18 x 8.5 OEM wheel?
I have 225 Blizzaks on OEM 18"'s front and rear for my RWD and the tire for the rear rim doesn't look stretched at all. Ran it last winter with no problems and helped a lot in the snow.
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Originally Posted by x2lacrosse
Does anyone have a pic of a 225/40 - 18 (or 235) tire mounted on the 18 x 8.5 OEM wheel?
This is not exactly what you wanted, but here is a pic from last winter. Tire size is 225/40/18 front and 225/45/18 rear at stock ride height. Keep in mind these tires are 5 years old so the tread is lower than it would be on a new tire, which is why I'm buying a new set for this winter.
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I ended up doing the rear size all around. A little wider, but still better than 4 seasons. I got a good deal on Kijiji from someone whose lease was coming due and sold me a set of 5 spoke Alloys with dunlops 245/45 17 for $375. About 2 winters worth of threads left on the tires.

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If I go w/ 235/40 - 18 in back, anyone think the wheel gap will become really ugly?

Used 1010tires' tire calculator to crunch #'s, then tried to use them to visualize based on the pic from above (w/ the 225/45-18's in rear). I'm not a "slammed" person by any means and am happy w/ the way it looks now, but certainly don't want the monster truck look to take effect.
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