IS350 f sport or bmw 335i
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I never drove a 335i, but I am confused on how it could be SO superior in drivability with 6 less ponies? To hear some speak it is like night and day difference. I went on BMW's website and the look and style of the 4-door 335i is just bleh. I see 800 of them a day. The interior is almost painful to look at.
I really hope Lexus does something special with the 3IS, to close the perceived drivability gap. When my lease is up 2014 I am hoping to score a 3IS-F
I really hope Lexus does something special with the 3IS, to close the perceived drivability gap. When my lease is up 2014 I am hoping to score a 3IS-F
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6HP doesn't define drivability though. Also, if you want to look at specs, the 335i is putting out better torque numbers than the IS350 at a much lower RPM. Either way, specs isn't everything. You don't get the spec numbers on the suspension though, which most will agree, stock for stock, 335i > IS350 in terms of handling. I've driven both, and as much as I love the IS line, I have to give it to BMW on that factor.
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The IS350 may not be racer fast but it's pretty darn quick. I mean 10 years ago an LS1 F-body was considered pretty darn quick for a stock car and it ran the same times stock.
Do you really want to get a 335i, add a chip, and blow up turbos?
Do you really want to get a 335i, add a chip, and blow up turbos?
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In your case id go for the bmw. You already had a lexus so might as well change it up. Though I had the same decision to make and I chose the is350. I was coming from an audi and was tired of the maintenance disaster it was becoming, and the lexus imo looks much much better both on the interior and the exterior. The only downside is I really miss performance mods.
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I had an 07 335i and now have a 09 E350 Sport. Went from a sports sedan to an old man's sedan. I did not have any problems or out of pocket expenses with the BMW, but then again, I only had it for 2 years and 24K miles. Same with the Benz so far. The Benz is a solid car and has a solid feel. I'm not sure about the weight, but it feels quite a bit heavier than the 335i or my wife's 11 IS350C. I don't care about reliability after the warranty, as I don't keep cars that long. However, my wife does, so the IS350C should serve us well. I think MB has fixed a lot of the problems from years ago, or at least that's my perception with my car to date.
335i-fun car to drive. handled like it was on rails.
E350-solid and great cruising car. feels like you're in a tank (safety wise)
IS350C-great hardtop convertible. fun to drive with plenty of power. Interior is the best of all three.
I'm starting to look for my next car and am thinking that the Chevy Volt might be the ticket if the $7.5k tax credit is available next year. With my driving patterns, the only gas we would then be buying would be for the IS. Haven't driven one yet, so that might change once I drive it!
335i-fun car to drive. handled like it was on rails.
E350-solid and great cruising car. feels like you're in a tank (safety wise)
IS350C-great hardtop convertible. fun to drive with plenty of power. Interior is the best of all three.
I'm starting to look for my next car and am thinking that the Chevy Volt might be the ticket if the $7.5k tax credit is available next year. With my driving patterns, the only gas we would then be buying would be for the IS. Haven't driven one yet, so that might change once I drive it!
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One other note is the MB Command system (audio/nav). A lot of people and reviews don't like it. I don't mind it, it's OK, but technology gets better and better with each new year.
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335i is just a blast to drive, so good steering feel and strong and immediate response from the engine. IS350 is great, 335i is just greater in terms of sport car feel/trait. Long term reliability and interior design are the strongs of the Lexus, and there is no comparison in my opinion. BMW's interior(dashboard, tachometer and speedometer, center console, the buttons, the trims) are simply ugly. And I don't trust turbo engine too much. After a while, it might start to give you headaches. Since you had a IS250 for four years, just try something else, otherwise you might think you are still in your old car. But it is still your call, test drive both and decide.
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In all seriousness though, you're correct in pointing off a clear trade-off. In a 335, you can reach a level of performance unattainable in an IS350. However, a 335 is inherently more unreliable than a 350, and that's exacerbated by whatever engine tuning you do (which will also likely void the powertrain warranty standing between you and numerous expensive HPFP and other failures). It's a clear question of performance (and higher price, you must admit) vs. reliability. To each their own.
You're right - the 2IS has more than its fair share of rattles, and it's pretty embarrassing for a Lexus. But in the scheme of things, I'd take a 2IS with a rattle over a 335 with myriad other problems that actually affect operation and driveability.
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As a reminder, our forum TOS https://www.clublexus.com/forums/faq.php
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You're welcome to participate as an enthusiast, but this IS a Lexus forum. You want to chat about BMW superiority I suggest you try a BMW forum.
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