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Old 11-19-09, 07:19 PM   #1
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Okay. I took a look at the IS350 today and was very impressed. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to find one fully loaded with Mark Levinson and a few other options - but there's a 2007 with 20k on the lot that I test drove - and really liked it.. Anyway, here are my questions...

When in sequential shift mode (or whatever they call it where you shift yourself), what happens when you're flooring it up to redline? Does it bog out? Does it automatically shift to the next gear? Does it just sit at that RPM and wait for you to make a move?

What would it take to get my iPod integrated into the navigation system? My 750Li is perfectly integrated and I really love that about my car. My wife's 2010 RX350 isn't setup that way - and the cost of the parts and installation turns her off enough to do without it. Since her car has a different navigation system than a 2007 IS350 does - I'm wondering if anyone here has gone through with it and I'd like their opinions..

That's all for now. I can't think of my other questions. I'll add more later, I guess.. Thanks in advance...
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The RPMs will just keep jumping at redline and wait for you to shift. Remember each time you go into the S mode lol, the car is so quite I forget sometimes. As for iPod integration theres a VAIS kit that you can buy which plays music and videos I believe.
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The RPMs will just keep jumping at redline and wait for you to shift. Remember each time you go into the S mode lol, the car is so quite I forget sometimes. As for iPod integration theres a VAIS kit that you can buy which plays music and videos I believe.
Thank you. So if I understand correctly, the RPMs will just keep increasing until you shift.

I remember what my other question was. The Mark Levinson system has one more speaker than the "premium" Lexus system. Is it really much better? Louder? More bass? What, exactly!

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The car will not up shift for you in manual mode, it will just hit the rev limiter until you shift.

I have had both the stock system (2007 IS250) and the ML system (2008 IS350) and the ML system is notably better. Crisper highs, lower bass, and of course 5.1 surround. And yes it is louder. I remember turning the stock system up all the way before in my old car and now I never do with my ML, actually one of the first things I noticed about it. Not even really a comparison in my opinion.

Oh, and I bought the iPod integration kit from Bestbuy and installed it myself in about 30 minutes. It's probably not the best product out there, but it was cheap, and it does everything I need it to do, choose by playlist, album, artist, etc. Shows track names and artist names.
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Thank you. So if I understand correctly, the RPMs will just keep increasing until you shift.
yes until you bounce off the limiter.

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I remember what my other question was. The Mark Levinson system has one more speaker than the "premium" Lexus system. Is it really much better? Louder? More bass? What, exactly!
stock is 200watts with 13spkrs/ML 300watts with 14spkrs, the 14th one being a center channel spkr in the middle of the dash. If you like clear sounds the ML is the way to go, BUT even the stock stereo is very good too BUT dont expect the thumping bass like in a G35/37 with the ML. If you can find the ML get it, if you cant dont worry its not a deal breaker. BUT... if your getting your car with NAV then ML is must have otherwise NAV without ML = FAIL

If your the kinda guy that likes to put in a thumpin 2000w+ sound system then it doesnt matter what sounds are in the car right?
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the official lexus ipod integration kit costs 250 plus install. sport mode is so worthless. never even bother using it.
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When in sequential shift mode (or whatever they call it where you shift yourself), what happens when you're flooring it up to redline? Does it bog out? Does it automatically shift to the next gear? Does it just sit at that RPM and wait for you to make a move?
It will depend on what speed you're going and the max gear range you've selected.

You cannot directly control the actual shift points, for example. However, you can select the max gear the car will shift into, which can be used as a pseudo-downshift at times, in situations where you're accelerating from partial throttle. At full throttle, the car will shift for itself, up until the gear you've specified, then bounce off the limiter.
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the ML system also allows u to play DVDs. I thought the ML system is 7.1 set up not 5.1?

I have nav w/o the ML and i'm happy with it and I dont think its a FAIL. BUT, i would recommend to get a car with the ML set up if you are really particular about your music. As for me, the regular stock system works for me.

I do have the VAIS system installed so I can hook up my iphone / ipod and play music or videos through the nav system. The Nav has also been modified so I can play movies while the car is in motion.

Hopefully you do decide to go with the 350. It is an awesome car. I compared it to a G35, and the interior on the 350 just is so much nicer... somethign about the quartz clock that makes me feel the g35 is outdated =)

GL with your car search.
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The car will not up shift for you in manual mode, it will just hit the rev limiter until you shift.

I have had both the stock system (2007 IS250) and the ML system (2008 IS350) and the ML system is notably better. Crisper highs, lower bass, and of course 5.1 surround. And yes it is louder. I remember turning the stock system up all the way before in my old car and now I never do with my ML, actually one of the first things I noticed about it. Not even really a comparison in my opinion.

Oh, and I bought the iPod integration kit from Bestbuy and installed it myself in about 30 minutes. It's probably not the best product out there, but it was cheap, and it does everything I need it to do, choose by playlist, album, artist, etc. Shows track names and artist names.
Well I certainly like LOUD - so if the ML is louder, than that's for me.. The BestBuy kit sounds interesting but the $250.00 thing mentioned below sounds good as well... Thank you...

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yes until you bounce off the limiter.

stock is 200watts with 13spkrs/ML 300watts with 14spkrs, the 14th one being a center channel spkr in the middle of the dash. If you like clear sounds the ML is the way to go, BUT even the stock stereo is very good too BUT dont expect the thumping bass like in a G35/37 with the ML. If you can find the ML get it, if you cant dont worry its not a deal breaker. BUT... if your getting your car with NAV then ML is must have otherwise NAV without ML = FAIL

If your the kinda guy that likes to put in a thumpin 2000w+ sound system then it doesnt matter what sounds are in the car right?
I do like bass - so it sounds to me like I may need to add a little - but maybe not.. I have the best system available in my 750Li (forget what it's called) but it's a little too low for my taste.. The sound is amazing and the weak 12" subwoofers under the seats feel nice - but are weak. I really wonder what the ML will sound like... In any event - is it complicated adding some bass to an IS350? I'll I'd likely need is a 10" Bazooka with the amp that comes with it. I don't need to set off car alarms - I just like to feel my music - a little more than the average person.

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the official lexus ipod integration kit costs 250 plus install. sport mode is so worthless. never even bother using it.
If the official Lexus iPod integration kit only costs $250.00 plus install - what $100.00? - than that'll do just fine.. It seems to cost much more to have it done in my 2010 RX350...

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It will depend on what speed you're going and the max gear range you've selected.

You cannot directly control the actual shift points, for example. However, you can select the max gear the car will shift into, which can be used as a pseudo-downshift at times, in situations where you're accelerating from partial throttle. At full throttle, the car will shift for itself, up until the gear you've specified, then bounce off the limiter.
Sounds like I'll have to get used to it.. I like the way BMW does it where once you hit redline, it just shifts up.. But that's just me... I remember racing an IS350 with my 05 LS430 a few years ago - and it was the first time I'd went all-out and raced - and as soon as I hit redline, the car just bogged out and I looked ridiculous.

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the ML system also allows u to play DVDs. I thought the ML system is 7.1 set up not 5.1?

I have nav w/o the ML and i'm happy with it and I dont think its a FAIL. BUT, i would recommend to get a car with the ML set up if you are really particular about your music. As for me, the regular stock system works for me.

I do have the VAIS system installed so I can hook up my iphone / ipod and play music or videos through the nav system. The Nav has also been modified so I can play movies while the car is in motion.

Hopefully you do decide to go with the 350. It is an awesome car. I compared it to a G35, and the interior on the 350 just is so much nicer... somethign about the quartz clock that makes me feel the g35 is outdated =)

GL with your car search.
I guess I'll have to do some research on the VAIS system. I want my iPhone and iPod to work seamlessly in the car.. Bluetooth for my iPhone and music with the iPod.. I'll be looking at the IS350 again this afternoon.. Hopefully I'll come home with it or bring it home tomorrow. I'm kinda anxious. I like this car.. It's a big change from a 750Li.. I think I'm kinda tired of big vehicles, though.. Before the 750Li was an Escalade ESV and before that an LS430...
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Sounds like I'll have to get used to it.. I like the way BMW does it where once you hit redline, it just shifts up.. But that's just me... I remember racing an IS350 with my 05 LS430 a few years ago - and it was the first time I'd went all-out and raced - and as soon as I hit redline, the car just bogged out and I looked ridiculous.
Yeah, give it a try and see for yourself. If you're going to let the car stretch its legs a bit, though, its better to leave the upshifting to the auto. I'd like to say I have fair tolerance for some of the quirks of the car, but timing the upshifts manually isn't one of them.

Otherwise, enjoy the future purchase if you decide to pull the trigger.
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If you are buying this car for the sport shift, you are making a mistake. The paddle/sport shift sucks. All it does is lock out the upper gears. So, for example, if you put the sport shift in "4" and do nothing else, you will be driving around as if you had a 4 speed automatic.

I only use it when it snows to lock out higher gears.

And, if you want ML--special order. There is no reason to immediately be disappointed with a car you just spent $40G on. Some dealers will tell you they won't discount a special order, but with a little more leg work, you will find a dealer that will discount the same as a car on the lot.
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I remember racing an IS350 with my 05 LS430 a few years ago - and it was the first time I'd went all-out and raced - and as soon as I hit redline, the car just bogged out and I looked ridiculous.
Why would you be using the paddles at all if you were racing?

They're not shifters, they simply set an upper gear limit.

If you're racing, where you want to floor the gas and accelerate as quickly as possible, you'd just put the car in D.
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Yeah, give it a try and see for yourself. If you're going to let the car stretch its legs a bit, though, its better to leave the upshifting to the auto. I'd like to say I have fair tolerance for some of the quirks of the car, but timing the upshifts manually isn't one of them.

Otherwise, enjoy the future purchase if you decide to pull the trigger.
I won't use the paddles because I hear too much bad stuff about them.. So that's not an issue for me. It also sounds as if leaving it in "auto" is better than even sequential/manual shifting (or whatever you call it). Unless I'm mistaken, it sounds as if most people are making great times just leaving it in "auto". However, I can definitely see myself having the urge to drop it into a lower gear rather than just flooring it at highway speed... I suppose I should do my best to refrain from doing that.. I guess there's really never any reason to put it into "sport" mode at all...

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If you are buying this car for the sport shift, you are making a mistake. The paddle/sport shift sucks. All it does is lock out the upper gears. So, for example, if you put the sport shift in "4" and do nothing else, you will be driving around as if you had a 4 speed automatic.

I only use it when it snows to lock out higher gears.

And, if you want ML--special order. There is no reason to immediately be disappointed with a car you just spent $40G on. Some dealers will tell you they won't discount a special order, but with a little more leg work, you will find a dealer that will discount the same as a car on the lot.
I'll keep that in mind if the car I'm going to look at falls through. I was supposed to go this afternoon but I ran out of time today - so it's tomorrow...

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Why would you be using the paddles at all if you were racing?

They're not shifters, they simply set an upper gear limit.

If you're racing, where you want to floor the gas and accelerate as quickly as possible, you'd just put the car in D.
When I raced the IS350, I owned (and was driving at the time) an 05 LS430 - so I had no paddles... It was the first time I ever really pushed the LS so I had no idea what would happen if I left it in sequential mode and just floored it...
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the ML system also allows u to play DVDs. I thought the ML system is 7.1 set up not 5.1?

I have nav w/o the ML and i'm happy with it and I dont think its a FAIL. BUT, i would recommend to get a car with the ML set up if you are really particular about your music. As for me, the regular stock system works for me.

Don't have experience with the nonML has mine has it and the one I test drove does. I like my ML but the sound diference wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. The integration would be. My system works excellently with my iPhone (which isn't officially supported for music) and the touch screen sat and nav are one of the main reasons I went with this other than another BMW product (335i or MINI S).

As to the 5.1 versus 7.1. My convertible is 5.1, the sedans are 7.1. There's not room in my drop top for the other two speakers.
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When I'm in manual mode and floor it, the rpm's race up as if I was in auto mode. However, this only happens if I really punch it. At partial throttle in manual mode, nothing really happens beyond what that "gear" is capable of doing (there's no kickdown).
For agressive passing or when you need speed asap, I find being in auto mode gets me the power fastest.
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