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Old 10-21-09, 05:21 AM   #46
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for the extra 100 horses, its worth the 5000
$3850ish actually...that's the difference in invoice from 250->350.
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Old 10-21-09, 09:10 AM   #47
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Ok, I have owned BOTH, I started with an IS250, and thought it was the best car Ive owned, smooth, refined, power for passing................ Then I drove a IS350 for a day (by myself)

NOT a good idea for IS250 owners.

After that I sold my 250 and upgraded to the 350 and its been such a blast! I love owning the road and just flooring it puts me in a better mood...

Now the few downfalls.....

1. Gas mileage... I was getting average 26MPG with my 250, now my average is around 19.5MPG. I think I could get better mileage but its VERY hard to resist the pedal....

2. sometimes car is too powerful for my liking, I find myself driving in "snow" mode because I just can't drive it nice without it jumping off the line when i hit the gas, especially in traffic...very touchy! IS250 was much smoother

All in all, I am very pleased with my upgrade but sometimes I am just driving and think to myself did i really need to dump 4k more for just more HP?? ... and then I hit the gas and say "YEP"!
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Old 10-21-09, 10:20 AM   #48
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Ok, I have owned BOTH, I started with an IS250, and thought it was the best car Ive owned, smooth, refined, power for passing................ Then I drove a IS350 for a day (by myself)

NOT a good idea for IS250 owners.

After that I sold my 250 and upgraded to the 350 and its been such a blast! I love owning the road and just flooring it puts me in a better mood...

Now the few downfalls.....

1. Gas mileage... I was getting average 26MPG with my 250, now my average is around 19.5MPG. I think I could get better mileage but its VERY hard to resist the pedal....

2. sometimes car is too powerful for my liking, I find myself driving in "snow" mode because I just can't drive it nice without it jumping off the line when i hit the gas, especially in traffic...very touchy! IS250 was much smoother

All in all, I am very pleased with my upgrade but sometimes I am just driving and think to myself did i really need to dump 4k more for just more HP?? ... and then I hit the gas and say "YEP"!

I'm with you on snow mode, it's a terrific mode. Not only does it start you out in 3rd gear from a stop, but it severely decreases throttle sensitivity AND severely decreases torque to the rear wheels, making for an ultra smooth transition from a dead stop and little to no slip on acceleration from a roll.
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Old 10-21-09, 08:51 PM   #49
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how do you set the car in snow mode?
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Old 10-21-09, 10:11 PM   #50
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you need to test drive them. Its not a question of whether or not the difference is noticible. I test drove both and i thought the 250 was a little sluggish, like you put ur foot down but don't really go anywhere, i love my 350, its pretty cool being able to burn nearly anyone u see
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Old 10-21-09, 10:35 PM   #51
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there have been many, many times i thought about trading my 07 awd for an 06 or 07 350.....the car is slow, so i don't even try with the horsepower stuff, strictly for looks...when i got loaners while the car is in service, i just love the power of the es350, and that car has about what, 280hp? i could just imagine the is350...

oh well, maybe next year i'll seriously consider it, the only reason i didn't upgrade is just all the trouble of going thru looking again, not to mention i have a add a bit more money to it, and all the stuff i put on the car, especially the rims i just got..if i get the 350, i'd definilty need to get more aggressive rims..
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Old 10-22-09, 10:44 AM   #52
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Ok, I have owned BOTH, I started with an IS250, and thought it was the best car Ive owned, smooth, refined, power for passing................ Then I drove a IS350 for a day (by myself)

NOT a good idea for IS250 owners.

After that I sold my 250 and upgraded to the 350 and its been such a blast! I love owning the road and just flooring it puts me in a better mood...

Now the few downfalls.....

1. Gas mileage... I was getting average 26MPG with my 250, now my average is around 19.5MPG. I think I could get better mileage but its VERY hard to resist the pedal....

2. sometimes car is too powerful for my liking, I find myself driving in "snow" mode because I just can't drive it nice without it jumping off the line when i hit the gas, especially in traffic...very touchy! IS250 was much smoother

All in all, I am very pleased with my upgrade but sometimes I am just driving and think to myself did i really need to dump 4k more for just more HP?? ... and then I hit the gas and say "YEP"!
Ditto on your second point. I think the torque is too much on the first gear, traction control light came on too many times on the rainy days when I'm making turn a little quick. Although I do feel the car underpower in certain gear.
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Old 10-22-09, 11:25 AM   #53
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well i must say, i have a 08 is250! i got it when i was 18 so it was one of those that i wanted the 350 real bad but i knew i was going to get in trouble with it...so i ended up getting the 250 and i must say once its broken into u'll have some good fun with it ...but if i cud go back i wud had rathered go with the 350 with out nav appose to the 250 with nav ,... ehh i guess i would say go with the 350 but the 250 is NOT bad at allll
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Old 10-22-09, 12:19 PM   #54
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...2. sometimes car is too powerful for my liking, I find myself driving in "snow" mode because I just can't drive it nice without it jumping off the line when i hit the gas, especially in traffic...very touchy! IS250 was much smoother
I use the "snow" mode when crawling in highway traffic jams. I hate to admit this, but I now force my wife to use it in the rain.

True story - the first winter I had my car, it had just started to rain (lighty) and there was a good mixture of oil and water on the road. My wife was driving and I was in the passenger seat. We just left the house and the tires were cold (OEM Dumlop Sport Maxx w/ about 8k miles). A half-mile way at a traffic light intersection to a major street, my wife was trying to make a left; and with the first chance she got, she decides to accelerate with no thought as to the wet road conditions. Well, the rears spun and traction control light started blinking (~3000rpm). Instead of easing off the throttle, she steps on the accelerator harder (now up to about 5000rpm) and did a nice power slide through the intersection all while the tractin control is beeping like crazy. I nearly wet my pants. When I asked her what she did, she looked at me blankly and said "well, the car didn't move fast enough, so I decided to step on the accelerator harder!"

Now I like to smoke the rear tires and power slide through a turn just as much as the next guy, but my wife has NO IDEA what she was doing or had done. The IS350 is so quite, that sometimes she forgets about all the power it has. That's the only time I thanked Lexus for putting an intrusive traction control on this car.

My wife -I love her to death- has no business in a RWD 300hp sedan.
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