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06-09-14, 07:50 PM

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Let me take a couple of pics for reference.

Sorry for the poor quality and lighting.

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Fit:

Rubbing/Damage. The burns are from the fender tab plastic, the cuts are from the tab itself before it was bent back a bit. It still does cut a bit if I hit a dip too fast:

Control arm clearance (18x9.5 +30, your +35 will come closer to the control arm):

Hope that helps.

Also, just some general advice for anyone lowering their car more than 1.5".. Do NOT get the SPC adjustable front balljoints. They simply don't have enough adjustment to make them worth it. Opt for the Figs or Megan Racing arms instead.

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06-09-14, 08:53 PM

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06-09-14, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dfwjohnd

Found a good deal on a used set of wheels-

Fronts: 19x9.5 +22
Rear: 19x10 +25

My Car: '11 is350 on BC's with 12k/10k Springs.
Would this look strange? Rear fenders rolled, would the front need it as well? Also, what size tires would I pair with these? Don't mind a little stretch and negative camber, will I need any Megan arms? If so, front, rear or both?

Thanks.

225/35 F 255/30 R or 235/35 F 265/30 R with the front you'll need roll/slit pull, trim inner linear and relocate the bumper tab. Rear roll/pull if you get the complete rear megan 5 piece they'll fit perfect. The more adjustment you can make the easier the fitment.

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06-09-14, 09:06 PM

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Remy you'll be fine with 18x9.5 +35 up front. It will be just about flush with camber set to about -0.5 degrees. You can do 235/40 to fill out the wheel gap a bit more, but if you plan on doing fender work (ie. bumper tab relocate and shave away extra metal, heat up and bend back fender liner, and fender roll), you can go all the way to 245/40 easy.

I'm running 245/40s on 18x9.5 +30 wheels all around on my AWD right now. Front fenders rolled slightly, fender liner mostly rubbed away, bumper tab metal bent back a bit. I do rub on heavy dips and sometimes when I turn. Let me take a couple of pics for reference.

thanks for the info and pics bro but will 235 in the front and 255 in the rear throw off my rolling diameter?

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06-10-14, 06:14 AM

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thanks for the info and pics bro but will 235 in the front and 255 in the rear throw off my rolling diameter?

Yeah, there's a difference of like 2.75%. It's doable though, I've heard the threshold is 3%. Maybe look around and see if anyone's been running that setup for a while?

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09-26-14, 11:53 AM

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Hi All,

I'm currently on the 19" F sport Forged rims with the following:
Front: 19"x8" with 225/35ZR19
Rear: 19"x9" with 255/35ZR19

With this set up my rolling diameter is off by about 3.2% (please check my math!) and I'm getting crazy wobbles, and weird shudders.

I'm thinking about changing to either F 225/40zr19 with R 255/35zr19 OR F 225/35zr19 & R 265/30zr19

What is better? Please help!!

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09-27-14, 08:56 PM

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Have you had an alignment done yet? Get the rear toe to as close to zero as possible, it'll eliminate the majority of the wobble, maybe even get rid of it completely.

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12-03-14, 09:36 AM

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Hey guys, I am planning on swapping my Work VS XX for Work Meister 3pc. The Meister specs are 19 x 9 +0 and 19 x 10 + 0. I'm wondering how much work will need to be done to fit these? And should I rebuild them for a square set up?

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01-22-15, 07:07 PM

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planning to run on stock 18" wheels:
225/40R18 front
255/35R18 rear
rear has -0.06" diameter difference than front

2009 IS250 AWD
Any advice?

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01-22-15, 09:56 PM

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planning to run on stock 18" wheels:
225/40R18 front
255/35R18 rear
rear has -0.06" diameter difference than front

2009 IS250 AWD
Any advice?

I am running this setup with F-Sport suspension on 2007 IS250 AWD for a year with no problem so far. As well, seeing 3IS AWD running with the same spec, I'd assume this is a safe setup IMHO.

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01-23-15, 06:02 PM

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Another update even though I don't have an IS. My 600hL is going on 3 years now running staggered.. No signs of any issues with my CVT AWD transmission..I matched up front and rear sizes to have nearly identical overall diameter of course

255/30/22 on 22x9 front
305/25/22 on 22x10.5 rear

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02-18-15, 06:25 PM

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Front: 19x8 with 225/35 25.20" diameter
Rear: 19x8.5 with 255/30 25.02" diameter

Is this okay? Rears are 0.18" smaller than the front meaning a 0.72% diameter difference.

Any advice?

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03-16-15, 12:46 PM

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Hi guys,

Looks like the responses have slowed down because everyone is sick of seeing this thread.

I have a set of rims 19*8 front and 19*9.5 rear

from what has been posted it looks like the best set to roll with would be 235/35/19 front and 265/30/19 rear.

I have also seen 275/30/19 rear.

Any advice on what would be the closest diameter for these mentioned tires.

Thanks!

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03-16-15, 07:47 PM

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Tire Diameter(in) Circ(in) sidewall height (in)Diameter (mm) Circ(mm) sidewallheight (mm)
275/30R19 25.496 80.098 3.248 647.6 2034.5 82.5
235/35R19 25.476 80.036 3.238 647.1 2032.9 82.3
265/30R19 25.260 79.356 3.130 641.6 2015.6 79.5

I attached the CL tyre calculator for reference.
I am running with 275/30R because its closest with 235/35

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