Ask him to swap vehicles for a minute, then tell him you've won before you even race.... the interior on the current-gen mustangs is -horribly- cheap and unconfortable....granted it costs 10k+ less but you can tell how many corners they cut on the inside of that thing...I'm an old-school muscle and pony car fan from way back (most of my driving life has been with a V8) but after one test drive in the new Mustang I was repulsed by how crappy the experience of being inside one was, no matter that the drive itself was pretty nice.
Performance wise, by the numbers-
Mustang GT Coupe-
3356 lbs curb weight
300 hp @5750 rpms
320 tq @4500 rpms
0-60 in 5.1, 1/4 mile in 13.9@104
Lexus IS350 sedan-
3527 lbs curb weight
306 hp @6400 rpms
277 tq @4800 rpms
0-60 in 5.4, 1/4 mile in 14.0@99.6
(folk on here have certainly run better but it's a decent example of the mag tests)
By the numbers the mustang wins- BUT
The above assumes a manual mustang, perfectly driven. It's pretty rare that happens... and the 5-spd auto in the mustang is kinda crap compared to the 6-spd auto in the Lexus... I'd also put money on VDIM doing a better job than the Ford traction control system in keeping power to the ground. Now, turn VDIM and the Ford T/C off, it's very much a drivers race.
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Ask him to swap vehicles for a minute, then tell him you've won before you even race.... the interior on the current-gen mustangs is -horribly- cheap and unconfortable....granted it costs 10k+ less but you can tell how many corners they cut on the inside of that thing...I'm an old-school muscle and pony car fan from way back (most of my driving life has been with a V8) but after one test drive in the new Mustang I was repulsed by how crappy the experience of being inside one was, no matter that the drive itself was pretty nice.
Although this isn't a mustang forum, I have to disagree COMPLETELY with this statement...at least compared to the previous mustang. The S197 mustang is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the previous SN95 generation (which I also had). It's like a lexus compared to the last gen
But, I'm glad to see that someone actually posted true stats about the cars. I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that all these IS350 owners are "destroying" the mustang.
One reason: if someone has a completely stock mustang, they probably could care less about racing, and more about just enjoying their car. Same with the IS350...anyone with a completely stock one probably doesn't care about racing and just likes the car for what it is.
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2010 IS350C -- Obsidian / Black; luxury pkg
Mods: G-spiders w/ Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 | F-sport exhaust, intake, & sways | LX-Mode chrome handles | Sport Pedals | PIAA Yellow fogs
In production: 19" ISSforged FM-8
2006 IS350 -- Blue Onyx Pearl / Sterling; premium pkg SOLD
Although this isn't a mustang forum, I have to disagree COMPLETELY with this statement...at least compared to the previous mustang. The S197 mustang is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the previous SN95 generation (which I also had). It's like a lexus compared to the last gen
But, I'm glad to see that someone actually posted true stats about the cars. I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that all these IS350 owners are "destroying" the mustang.
One reason: if someone has a completely stock mustang, they probably could care less about racing, and more about just enjoying their car. Same with the IS350...anyone with a completely stock one probably doesn't care about racing and just likes the car for what it is.
I agree the new mustang is much nicer on the inside than the previous generation.
But that says more bad things about the previous gen than good things about the new one.
I test drove about 10 cars before buying my IS350. The 07 Mustang GT was the only one that simply sitting in it without even turning it on made me ABSOLUTELY not want to own it. I only drove it to be polite to the sales person. (and honestly with the engine on the car's a lot more fun...the sitting in it is HORRID... crap cheap plastic everywhere, my knees had -zero- room side to side and I'm not especially tall, rear entry was terrible even for a 2-door, and did I mention the crap plastic interior that looked like even GM wouldn't have used it in the 90s?
The dash cluster was very pretty though, nice and retro.
The seats themselves weren't bad either.
Everything else inside the car...horrid.
I'm not joking when I say a Suzuki Aero I once was forced to use as a rental had a vastly nicer and higher quality interior as far as plastics, panels, etc.
It was that bad.
Beautiful engine, dash, and exterior looks... rest was crap.
It was funny... my wife, after we'd disappointedly driven an Avalon and one of the new 287hp camrys (both north of 30k) and then more happily had driven an Acura Tl-S, said (about the Acura) 'Now that's the first one that felt like a $30,000 car on the inside." and later made similar remarks on the G35 sport and IS350 we drove.
After the mustang she reminded me of this and said (about the mustang) "that one felt like a $3,000 car on the inside"
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2008 IS350 - Black Sapphire Pearl/Cashmere - Sport Package, Mark Levinson (no nav), XM, Tanabe Exhaust, F-Sport Intake and Sway Bars
Ask him to swap vehicles for a minute, then tell him you've won before you even race.... the interior on the current-gen mustangs is -horribly- cheap and unconfortable....granted it costs 10k+ less but you can tell how many corners they cut on the inside of that thing...I'm an old-school muscle and pony car fan from way back (most of my driving life has been with a V8) but after one test drive in the new Mustang I was repulsed by how crappy the experience of being inside one was, no matter that the drive itself was pretty nice.
Performance wise, by the numbers-
Mustang GT Coupe-
3356 lbs curb weight
300 hp @5750 rpms
320 tq @4500 rpms
0-60 in 5.1, 1/4 mile in 13.9@104
Lexus IS350 sedan-
3527 lbs curb weight
306 hp @6400 rpms
277 tq @4800 rpms
0-60 in 5.4, 1/4 mile in 14.0@99.6
(folk on here have certainly run better but it's a decent example of the mag tests)
By the numbers the mustang wins- BUT
The above assumes a manual mustang, perfectly driven. It's pretty rare that happens... and the 5-spd auto in the mustang is kinda crap compared to the 6-spd auto in the Lexus... I'd also put money on VDIM doing a better job than the Ford traction control system in keeping power to the ground. Now, turn VDIM and the Ford T/C off, it's very much a drivers race.
I believe that a stock IS350 quarter mile is around 13.5(do a search), not 14.0
THanks guys for the nice inputs, very informative indeed Ikk just see what the outcome is when ever we race. LOL he thinks hes a hot shot with a all black Mustang compared to my IS350. Ill give him a chance. THanks again guys.
You guys can keep posting with more info if you like
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Mods- 20/20 Tint, Smoked-Tail Lights, Yellow Fog Light Vinyls, White LED Dome lights, Eyelids, Joe Z Intake with HKS drop in Filter
Thats odd ...A good friend of mines has a GT Manual.and yes he can drive a stick very well..He likes to brag about how his mustang is so fast and cool!...but everytime we race...i always win.... hes always saying how the ***** a auto beats him everytime...
my friend has an 07 cali edition gt.. he has inake and exhaust.. its a 5 speed and this guy can drive it well.. regardless... i beat him from any speed.. off
the line.. a 20 roll.. 40 roll.. 60 roll
IS350 is faster than a mustang gt.. unless the stang is highly modded
...A good friend of mines has a GT Manual.and yes he can drive a stick very well..He likes to brag about how his mustang is so fast and cool!...but everytime we race...i always win....
hes always saying how the ***** a auto beats him everytime...
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