Engine cranking/startup noise (merged threads)
08-10-07, 10:00 AM
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EG019-07 for the 2GR-FSE, and EG017-07 for the 4GR-FSE.
08-10-07, 10:23 AM
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That doesn't seem right: Some 2005 – 2006 model year Avalon vehicles may display evidence of a small oil leak, located where the Bank 1 cylinder head, engine block, and timing cover meet. Please use the repair procedure below to diagnose and correct this condition.
08-10-07, 04:36 PM
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Here is the TSIB for the engine noise! It only lists the 350 and its 38 pages long.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rmsm5l
The file is 1mb which is bigger than what CL allows so I had to upload it elsewhere. It will soon be available on my website as well.
Here is the one for the 250:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mwqfoi
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rmsm5l
The file is 1mb which is bigger than what CL allows so I had to upload it elsewhere. It will soon be available on my website as well.
Here is the one for the 250:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mwqfoi
Last edited by carlos; 08-10-07 at 05:21 PM.
08-10-07, 05:15 PM
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I just got my car back after a month at Lexus of Jacksonville. Engine Cranking Noise problem solved and fixed. I think the info I am about to post as already been posted, but seeing that this thread had grown - i'll repost.
Problem:
"Customer states sometimes on a cold start, when cranking the vehicle a strange rattling noise is heard"
Cause:
"Intake camshaft gear assemblys need replaced as per TSBI #EG019-07, EG7027 ENG KNOCK @ COLD STRT 06-07 IS250/350 07"
Parts Replaced:
(2) 13050-31120 GEAR ASSY, CAMSHAFT
(1) 11213-31040 GASKET, CYLINDER HEA
(1) 11214-31020 GASKET, CYLINDER HEA
(1) 90430-16016 GASKET
(2) 90430-16012 GASKET
(1) 90430-16016 GASKET
(2) 90430-16012 GASKET
(1) 17176-31060 GASKET, AIR SURGE TA
(2) 17177-31060 GASKET, INTAKE MANIF
(2) 90430-A0001 GASKET
(4) 11159-0P010 GASKET, CAMSHAFT BEA
(2) 90430-16012 GASKET
(2) 00272-SLLC2 SUPER LONG LIFE COOL
Hope this helps. Lexus of Jacksonville has been nothing more than impressive and helpful with this problem. They really took the effort to duplicate the problem by holding the car for 3 days and sure enough they heard the "clanking" noise. The parts replaced are apparently hard to get a hold of (back-order?) so I had to wait a month ... well worth it though. Gave me a 07 GS as a loaner. As much as I enjoyed the GS though, its great to be back in an IS350.
Problem:
"Customer states sometimes on a cold start, when cranking the vehicle a strange rattling noise is heard"
Cause:
"Intake camshaft gear assemblys need replaced as per TSBI #EG019-07, EG7027 ENG KNOCK @ COLD STRT 06-07 IS250/350 07"
Parts Replaced:
(2) 13050-31120 GEAR ASSY, CAMSHAFT
(1) 11213-31040 GASKET, CYLINDER HEA
(1) 11214-31020 GASKET, CYLINDER HEA
(1) 90430-16016 GASKET
(2) 90430-16012 GASKET
(1) 90430-16016 GASKET
(2) 90430-16012 GASKET
(1) 17176-31060 GASKET, AIR SURGE TA
(2) 17177-31060 GASKET, INTAKE MANIF
(2) 90430-A0001 GASKET
(4) 11159-0P010 GASKET, CAMSHAFT BEA
(2) 90430-16012 GASKET
(2) 00272-SLLC2 SUPER LONG LIFE COOL
Hope this helps. Lexus of Jacksonville has been nothing more than impressive and helpful with this problem. They really took the effort to duplicate the problem by holding the car for 3 days and sure enough they heard the "clanking" noise. The parts replaced are apparently hard to get a hold of (back-order?) so I had to wait a month ... well worth it though. Gave me a 07 GS as a loaner. As much as I enjoyed the GS though, its great to be back in an IS350.
08-10-07, 06:07 PM
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Here is the TSIB for the engine noise! It only lists the 350 and its 38 pages long.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rmsm5l
The file is 1mb which is bigger than what CL allows so I had to upload it elsewhere. It will soon be available on my website as well.
Here is the one for the 250:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mwqfoi
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rmsm5l
The file is 1mb which is bigger than what CL allows so I had to upload it elsewhere. It will soon be available on my website as well.
Here is the one for the 250:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mwqfoi
WOW looks like a lot of labor to get it fixed. Does the noise create any
premature wear on the affected parts? If it doesn't create any more stress
on the affected parts, is it worth doing all that to a new engine?
08-16-07, 02:14 PM
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I was wondering, who has had this problem fixed, and have you noticed any difference in the engine performance, fuel economy, etc...?
My car has been at the dealer for a week now, waiting on the parts to fix this problem. I'm not sure how long it will take. I was told two weeks on the parts to arrive.
I bought the car with the intention of paying it off and driving it around for a few years. Now, with work being done on the engine, I don't trust keeping the thing past the powertrain warranty, which may end in 4-5 years at the rate that I'm accumulating mileage, now that engine work will have been done at only 20k miles. Should I start looking for a new car? I don't want to end up shelling out major $ if this thing breaks after warranty. It sucks because I paid it off the same week it was checked into the dealer.
Any thoughts on keeping this car for 5-6 years after this?
My car has been at the dealer for a week now, waiting on the parts to fix this problem. I'm not sure how long it will take. I was told two weeks on the parts to arrive.
I bought the car with the intention of paying it off and driving it around for a few years. Now, with work being done on the engine, I don't trust keeping the thing past the powertrain warranty, which may end in 4-5 years at the rate that I'm accumulating mileage, now that engine work will have been done at only 20k miles. Should I start looking for a new car? I don't want to end up shelling out major $ if this thing breaks after warranty. It sucks because I paid it off the same week it was checked into the dealer.
Any thoughts on keeping this car for 5-6 years after this?
08-16-07, 07:11 PM
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I was wondering, who has had this problem fixed, and have you noticed any difference in the engine performance, fuel economy, etc...?
My car has been at the dealer for a week now, waiting on the parts to fix this problem. I'm not sure how long it will take. I was told two weeks on the parts to arrive.
I bought the car with the intention of paying it off and driving it around for a few years. Now, with work being done on the engine, I don't trust keeping the thing past the powertrain warranty, which may end in 4-5 years at the rate that I'm accumulating mileage, now that engine work will have been done at only 20k miles. Should I start looking for a new car? I don't want to end up shelling out major $ if this thing breaks after warranty. It sucks because I paid it off the same week it was checked into the dealer.
Any thoughts on keeping this car for 5-6 years after this?
My car has been at the dealer for a week now, waiting on the parts to fix this problem. I'm not sure how long it will take. I was told two weeks on the parts to arrive.
I bought the car with the intention of paying it off and driving it around for a few years. Now, with work being done on the engine, I don't trust keeping the thing past the powertrain warranty, which may end in 4-5 years at the rate that I'm accumulating mileage, now that engine work will have been done at only 20k miles. Should I start looking for a new car? I don't want to end up shelling out major $ if this thing breaks after warranty. It sucks because I paid it off the same week it was checked into the dealer.
Any thoughts on keeping this car for 5-6 years after this?
I have yet to keep a car past its powertrain warranty purely for that reason. I would like to enjoy "peace of mind" when I drive my vehicle, knowing that if something does go wrong, I don't go broke, especially for a vehicle I paid 42k for. My suggestion is to keep your eyes open for what's to come. People change, lifestyles change, and cars change. Maybe five years from now there will be flying cars
(I was let down in 2000)Good luck and enjoy the IS when you get her back.
08-16-07, 10:39 PM
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I was wondering, who has had this problem fixed, and have you noticed any difference in the engine performance, fuel economy, etc...?
My car has been at the dealer for a week now, waiting on the parts to fix this problem. I'm not sure how long it will take. I was told two weeks on the parts to arrive.
I bought the car with the intention of paying it off and driving it around for a few years. Now, with work being done on the engine, I don't trust keeping the thing past the powertrain warranty, which may end in 4-5 years at the rate that I'm accumulating mileage, now that engine work will have been done at only 20k miles. Should I start looking for a new car? I don't want to end up shelling out major $ if this thing breaks after warranty. It sucks because I paid it off the same week it was checked into the dealer.
Any thoughts on keeping this car for 5-6 years after this?
My car has been at the dealer for a week now, waiting on the parts to fix this problem. I'm not sure how long it will take. I was told two weeks on the parts to arrive.
I bought the car with the intention of paying it off and driving it around for a few years. Now, with work being done on the engine, I don't trust keeping the thing past the powertrain warranty, which may end in 4-5 years at the rate that I'm accumulating mileage, now that engine work will have been done at only 20k miles. Should I start looking for a new car? I don't want to end up shelling out major $ if this thing breaks after warranty. It sucks because I paid it off the same week it was checked into the dealer.
Any thoughts on keeping this car for 5-6 years after this?
That said, why not bring your concerns up with your service manager as well as 800-25-Lexus. Ask them if they may considering extending your powertrain warranty past the 72k mile mark that comes with the car because of your concerns.
Strangely my noise has completely disappeared, after taking my car to the drag strip for a few 1/4 mile runs. Maybe my engine just had to warm up a bit??
08-17-07, 08:17 PM
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Yes they had a leaking hose on the back side of the engine. I have seen the es350,rx350,is250/350 leak through the cover. Just make sure when it gets serviced if your not at a lexus dealership they check above the power steering pump for a trail oil.
08-17-07, 08:26 PM
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What power steering pump? On an ISx50?
08-17-07, 08:35 PM
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08-23-07, 07:35 PM
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count me in
noticed the problem first last week @ 17.7K
at least once a day. either when starting my car in the morning or before driving home from work in the afternoon.
noticed the problem first last week @ 17.7K
at least once a day. either when starting my car in the morning or before driving home from work in the afternoon.
08-25-07, 08:55 AM
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Some dealers know about this and others refuse to acknowledge there is a problem at all. I'm taking my 350 into my dealer Monday for the rear view mirror TSIB and the engine rattle. I made my appointment last week (so I could be sure to get an IS for my courtesy car 
) and I just now found the TSIB for the engine rattle. I'll bring it to my service reps attention when I take it in. Below is link to the TSIB for engine rattle and knock.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rmsm5l
) and I just now found the TSIB for the engine rattle. I'll bring it to my service reps attention when I take it in. Below is link to the TSIB for engine rattle and knock.http://www.sendspace.com/file/rmsm5l