encore888

I think the 2nd gen IS makes people think that Lexus is SERIOUS about going after the entire 3-series market, including the performance aficiandos but also the luxury sport et al...I am taking a look at this car seriously.

actham

I bet the sport package will be standard on the 350 and optional on the 250. It will be nice to find out what it consists of, though...

STIG

i could care less about the options and junk, i would be happy if i can get into IS350 for under 37K. (very base one)

i m not sure about 46K+ for fully loaded IS350. those are the price range patrol by M3,S4 and such.

Gojirra99

That would be comparable to the base model price of the M3 & S4, M3 at $48K, & S4 at $46k. A loaded M3 can be $60K+

spwolf

It is a bit unfair to expect low sticker when you are talking about top model with very expensive features. I mean, would you be happier if PCS was not available and then the "fully" loaded model would be 42k? And would you be happier if there was no PCS, no ACC, no VDIM, no ML, no Sport and sticker was 38k? That does not make any sense...

Base IS350 sounds very similar to IS250, and I dont think it will end up being more expensive than 35k MSRP "base".

Lexus will price it right, lets not get all worked up about pricing we have no clue about :-)

STIG

let's hope so...

another point is that IS250 will have ture manual shift and IS350 wont.

would anyone would pick the 250 over 350 just want to shift the real manual stick?

i would seriosuly consider btw these 2 tho.

webhed

The manual won't be a big deal to me so I'm opting for the IS350.

Xanadu350

Hey, I'm not getting worked up over the pricing, lol I was just responding to the original poster of the thread.

Of course I want all those options, but I also don't want to pay $46 or $47 for the car either and I think Lexus knows that too. I would think Lexus is trying to get new buyers who were thinking about the new E90 possibly but if the car is $46 or $47 that wouldn't make sense. That figure is also too close to the new GS.

CK6Speed

iTrader: (1)

This is a tough one. I drive manual cars, but with a difference of nearly 2 seconds in 0-60 and 1/4 mile the manual in the IS250 doesn't really sound that great next to the IS350 Upper 7 second range for the IS250 and under 6 seconds for the IS350. I'll probably stick with the IS350 myself.

Kyosuke86

What is with the prices?! i can't believe how high the prices can go up to. Isn't the IS class supposed to be the lowest model for Lexus? So how can the prices be higher than the ES? I think that if the IS350 is close to 40K i would rather look at the GS instead. I'm not all that thrilled about the new IS. It just doesn't meet my standards.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

you are comparing the 300+ hp is350 fully loaded with a pretty basic gs300, you think thta's a fair comparison? a fully loaded gs300 without awd will run you for 50k, good luck.

and yes, the IS will still be entry level. get the is250, nothing wrong with it. same with the ES, if you get the basic model that's about the price, 30k. but if you get a fully loaded one i thought it's on high 30s too?

lexus have definitely upped the price on their cars, i can see that on the new gs and potentially the new IS. i don't see the real problem though, the basically model is still going to be around 30k among the lexus lineup, and with so much more on the car i think the price is pretty justified. at least to me

Gojirra99

iatacs19

I am expecting it won't be more than $40k loaded with every option including navigation.

if it goes above that then I guess I am going with G35 sedan 6-speed + nav.

Gojirra99

A loaded G35 sedan will be larger too, it's like a 5 series in size, but it won't be as well equipped, well-built & refined.

Ratman009

Gotta chime in here. They can't possibly price an IS350 anywhere above about 42K or so fully loaded. To achieve their target goal (steal sales away from 330i's) lexus needs to offer a comparable (if not superior) vehicle at a lower price point. Forget about all of the bells and whistles that most people don't really care about right now. Adaptive cruise control and stuff like that won't be the norm for another 3-5 years. You could build a nicely equipped 330 for about 43-45K (sport,premium,cold weather, Idrive, auto). Americans are not going to buy a 42k lexus when they can buy a 43-44k BMW - we are just too image centric and frankly, BMW still has the "higher-end" image and status that go with the brand. Obviously, Lexus builds a "better" vehicle in the reliability and fit and finish category. Will a 350 touch the fantastic driving dynamics of the new E90? Possibly, and if the driveability of the current IS300 is any indication of what the 2nd gen models will potentially offer, I am very hopeful.

I'm sure someone will chime in, "but the 350 will have ~320HP while a 330 only has 255!" Frankly, HP numbers mean nothing, it's the actual performance generated by those numbers that counts. 330s have already run 5.6-5.7 sec runs with a stick and a "measely" 255HP (and not that much torque either). figure another .3-.4 for an auto. So we are looking at 6.0-6.2 for an auto. I really hope that Lexus is being highly conservative with their figures, as a 315-320HP car with 275+ Lbs of torque (even with an auto and not weighing all that much) should be able to run mid 5s if geared properly. Yeah, mid range power is probably more important to me than 0-60 times, but it is a good indication of power/gearing/drivetrain efficiency/traction.

In the vain hope that someone from Lexus PR/Marketing actually reads these types of forums, here's what I would like to see. Everyone stop talking about being WILLING to pay 46-48K for this car. It's not worth that much. Really. A nicely equipped 350 (sport pack - should be standard on this car anyway, heated/cooled seats, Levinson audio, Xenons, sunroof) should work out to about 37K-38K tops if Lexus is serious about eroding BMWs hold on this market. A similarly equipped 3 (metallic paint, heated seats, leather, sport pack, auto) is about 42K. The car needs to be about 4-5K less to steal the sales. If the 350 is only like 2-3K less than the E90, most American's are going to sell out to the Blue and White propeller logo. I know I will, and I'll get a fold down rear seat as well (critical in cars with trunks as small as these cars have-please Lexus, make one available - I'll give you ~$500 for it!).

Just my two cents.