Problem with Joe Z Exhaust install !! Help!!
04-24-15, 12:11 PM
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Problem with Joe Z Exhaust install !! Help!!
Yet had the dealer call me and tell me that the shop foreman says that the mid section on my exhaust has a defect or issue with the exhaust hangers on the mid section. I went down to look at it and this is what I found. Looks like the positioning of the hanger is not lining up with the oem hanger. Now they just put the hanger in between the hanger on the exhaust and the hanger on the car so they don't hit and make noise. They said I would have to take it to a muffler shop and see if they can cut I the hanger off and modify it to hang from both sides. They said if I cut one of the hangers off it will only be hanging from one side and could have the hanger stretch and the exhaust hang lower. Right now it's maybe 1/4" -1/2" too low.
I have to admit after paying the extra money on the joe z over the Borla I'm not happy. This sucks to have issues with a new unit and then have to modify it to fit and its the pricier of the units.
JOE Z I NEED YOU TO CHIME IN. This is what it looks like . HELP!! What should I do??
UPDATE : THIS WAS 100% INSTALL ERROR BY A SHOP FOREMAN . THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UNIT. JUST A CASE OF INSTALLER NOT READING INSTRUCTIONS . MOD IN JAPAN AND JOEZ ARE AMAZING !!!!!!
I have to admit after paying the extra money on the joe z over the Borla I'm not happy. This sucks to have issues with a new unit and then have to modify it to fit and its the pricier of the units.
JOE Z I NEED YOU TO CHIME IN. This is what it looks like . HELP!! What should I do??
UPDATE : THIS WAS 100% INSTALL ERROR BY A SHOP FOREMAN . THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UNIT. JUST A CASE OF INSTALLER NOT READING INSTRUCTIONS . MOD IN JAPAN AND JOEZ ARE AMAZING !!!!!!
Last edited by I8ABMR; 04-24-15 at 03:03 PM.
04-24-15, 01:31 PM
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Same problem
I took my isf to a shop and they showed me the same issue with my joez exhaust. The hangars are offset and flipping one of the hangers rubber guides does not fit. So i am hanging with just one at the mid section but it is pretty sturdy and have no issues yet?
04-24-15, 01:36 PM
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UNFORTUNATLEY - This is an installation error in the making... 
The drivers side hanger needs to be INSTALLED & flipped up 180 degrees.. and the MID PIPE fits perfectly..
The hanger needs to be installed on the car & pipe.
Have them unbolt the axle sections to correct their mistake..
This system has been selling for over 7 years.. We didn't start making them different..
Does your Lexus Dealership Shop foreman need a call directly from ME ??
Regards,
Joe Z
The drivers side hanger needs to be INSTALLED & flipped up 180 degrees.. and the MID PIPE fits perfectly..
The hanger needs to be installed on the car & pipe.
Have them unbolt the axle sections to correct their mistake..
This system has been selling for over 7 years.. We didn't start making them different..
Does your Lexus Dealership Shop foreman need a call directly from ME ??
Regards,
Joe Z
04-24-15, 01:38 PM
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First of all, you need to calm down big guy. You have proven time and again on this forum that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to modifications and/or maintenance on this car. It is arrogant of you to start a thread in an angered "tone" concerning this install when not one person who has this exhaust (including myself) has experienced an issue.
And to make it worse, it's not even you who is doing the damn install; which, btw, might be one of the easiest installs known to man. I installed this exhaust with my buddy in a little over an hour with ZERO issues. Whoever you brought it to is an imbecile for screwing it up.
Oh yeah - Joe Z answered your question so you can stop crying now.
And to make it worse, it's not even you who is doing the damn install; which, btw, might be one of the easiest installs known to man. I installed this exhaust with my buddy in a little over an hour with ZERO issues. Whoever you brought it to is an imbecile for screwing it up.
Oh yeah - Joe Z answered your question so you can stop crying now.
04-24-15, 01:52 PM
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Thankyou Joe
UNFORTUNATLEY - This is an installation error in the making...
The drivers side hanger needs to be INSTALLED & flipped up 180 degrees.. and the MID PIPE fits perfectly..
The hanger needs to be installed on the car & pipe.
Have them unbolt the axle sections to correct their mistake..
This system has been selling for over 7 years.. We didn't start making them different..
Does your Lexus Dealership Shop foreman need a call directly from ME ??
Regards,
Joe Z
The drivers side hanger needs to be INSTALLED & flipped up 180 degrees.. and the MID PIPE fits perfectly..
The hanger needs to be installed on the car & pipe.
Have them unbolt the axle sections to correct their mistake..
This system has been selling for over 7 years.. We didn't start making them different..
Does your Lexus Dealership Shop foreman need a call directly from ME ??
Regards,
Joe Z
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04-24-15, 02:05 PM
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^^ Sorry for the late post... Walked away to call the Dealership & Tech to assist them through a live fix for "I8ABMR" 
Another installer error... 
This Exhaust only goes ON ONE way... If its NOT fitting even and properly...
Then they are doing it wrong..
Joe Z
This Exhaust only goes ON ONE way... If its NOT fitting even and properly...
Then they are doing it wrong..
Joe Z
I just whipped this up for you.....
Enjoy,
Joe Z
- Step 1 – Put car on lift and let exhaust fully cool down.
- Step 2 – Once cooled, spray some wd40 on front flange bolts (4) and rear flange bolts (2).
- Step 3 – Loosen plastic under panels to remove underbody brace.
- Step 4 – Remove both underbody braces.
- Step 5 – Exhaust should be 100% cool now. With proper Toyota / Lexus O2 sensor removal tool, break free the O2 sensors and then remove the sensors by hand.. No lubricants should be needed since your car is new. If its older, you may need to lubricate the oem nuts & bolts.. Let O2 sensors hang down.
- Step 6 – Spray Wd40 on the 4 silicone hangers holding the oem exhaust.
- Step 7 – Remove the rear exhaust spring bolts from flange.
- Step 8 – Pull off rear oem exhaust section.
- Step 9 – Place exhaust lift on mid pipe and remove 4 bolts that hold front exhaust section to flanges.
- Step 10 – Pull off entire front-mid oem exhaust section.
- Step 11 – Install new X-pipe section. Reuse 4 oem bolts and 2 oem crush gaskets. Make sure the flanges and gaskets are properly aligned and flush to avoid leaks.
If OEM gaskets are older or worn or over crushed.... You will need TWO new ones Part # 90917-06078
- Step 12 – Spray wd40 on 2 middle silicone hangers again. Plus the driver’s side hanger will need to be flipped upward 180 degrees.
- Step 13 - Install new mid pipe section with dual resonators. Use 2 new gaskets supplied and 4 new bolts supplied, to connect to X-pipe.
- Step 14 – Spray wd40 on 2 rear silicone hangers again.
- Step 15 – Install new driver’s side axle section first. Use 1 new gasket supplied and 2 new bolts.
- Step 16 – Install new passenger side axle section last. Use 1 new gasket supplied and 2 new bolts.
- Step 17 – Double check all areas for proper clearance and double check all nuts and bolts are properly secure & tightened.
- Step 18 – Make O2 sensor wiring 100% straight. Now before re-installing O2 sensors, the sensors and wires will need to be wound back (counter clockwise) 2 ¾ turns. So that once it’s screwed back in by hand, the wiring will not be kinked and/or wound up.
Use O2 sensor tool to finally tighten sensor.
- Step 19 – Now is a good time to start up the F and quick check for leaks at all gasket locations. If there is any turn off car, wait for cool down and make the necessary adjustments.
- Step 20 – Once all has been verified with install. Reinstall underbody braces and plastic panels.
- Step 21 – Drive it like you stole it.. !!!
Enjoy,
Joe Z
Last edited by Joe Z; 04-24-15 at 02:15 PM.
04-24-15, 02:06 PM
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You have proven time and again on this forum that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to modifications and/or maintenance on this car. It is arrogant of you to start a thread in an angered "tone" concerning this install when not one person who has this exhaust (including myself) has experienced an issue.
Oh yeah - Joe Z answered your question so you can stop crying now.
Oh yeah - Joe Z answered your question so you can stop crying now.
And just to add a bit more - If I were an aftermarket manufacturer of an automotive enhancement, Mr. or is it Dr. I8ABMR would be on my Do Not Sell To List.
Lou
04-24-15, 02:20 PM
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^^^ Guys its OK.... Take it easy..!!!
Not everyone "knows cars"... Even techs...
Unfortunately the dealer tech could not visualize how to manipulate the hangers..
They assumed it worked "like oem". That wasn't the case...
Once I got them a few step backwards, they were able to quickly fix the issue and should be just about done with the install by now..
Problem easily solved
Joe Z
Not everyone "knows cars"... Even techs...
Unfortunately the dealer tech could not visualize how to manipulate the hangers..
They assumed it worked "like oem". That wasn't the case...
Once I got them a few step backwards, they were able to quickly fix the issue and should be just about done with the install by now..
Problem easily solved
Joe Z
04-24-15, 02:42 PM
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Now that is customer service at it's best.
Thanks for the instructions Joe Z and the OEM gasket part numbers. I will print this up for my install next week.
04-24-15, 02:58 PM
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UNFORTUNATLEY - This is an installation error in the making...
The drivers side hanger needs to be INSTALLED & flipped up 180 degrees.. and the MID PIPE fits perfectly..
The hanger needs to be installed on the car & pipe.
Have them unbolt the axle sections to correct their mistake..
This system has been selling for over 7 years.. We didn't start making them different..
Does your Lexus Dealership Shop foreman need a call directly from ME ??
Regards,
Joe Z
The drivers side hanger needs to be INSTALLED & flipped up 180 degrees.. and the MID PIPE fits perfectly..
The hanger needs to be installed on the car & pipe.
Have them unbolt the axle sections to correct their mistake..
This system has been selling for over 7 years.. We didn't start making them different..
Does your Lexus Dealership Shop foreman need a call directly from ME ??
Regards,
Joe Z
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JOE Z FOR AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE AND MOD IN JAPAN AS WELL. I AM BLOWN AWAY BY THE SERVICE
First of all, you need to calm down big guy. You have proven time and again on this forum that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to modifications and/or maintenance on this car. It is arrogant of you to start a thread in an angered "tone" concerning this install when not one person who has this exhaust (including myself) has experienced an issue.
And to make it worse, it's not even you who is doing the damn install; which, btw, might be one of the easiest installs known to man. I installed this exhaust with my buddy in a little over an hour with ZERO issues. Whoever you brought it to is an imbecile for screwing it up.
Oh yeah - Joe Z answered your question so you can stop crying now.
And to make it worse, it's not even you who is doing the damn install; which, btw, might be one of the easiest installs known to man. I installed this exhaust with my buddy in a little over an hour with ZERO issues. Whoever you brought it to is an imbecile for screwing it up.
Oh yeah - Joe Z answered your question so you can stop crying now.
There is no angered tone. All I said was problem with joe z install please help. See what I mean by reading the tone wrong??
^^^ Guys its OK.... Take it easy..!!!
Not everyone "knows cars"... Even techs...
Unfortunately the dealer tech could not visualize how to manipulate the hangers..
They assumed it worked "like oem". That wasn't the case...
Once I got them a few step backwards, they were able to quickly fix the issue and should be just about done with the install by now..
Problem easily solved
Joe Z
Not everyone "knows cars"... Even techs...
Unfortunately the dealer tech could not visualize how to manipulate the hangers..
They assumed it worked "like oem". That wasn't the case...
Once I got them a few step backwards, they were able to quickly fix the issue and should be just about done with the install by now..
Problem easily solved
Joe Z
Last edited by I8ABMR; 04-24-15 at 03:19 PM.
04-24-15, 03:02 PM
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Mods can close the thread . THIS WAS 100% INSTALL ERROR AND JOE Z UNITS SHOULD BE INSTALLED BY PROS AND EXHAUST SHOPS IDEALLY. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for the help Joe Z and Mod in Japan. I am so thankful for your time and response. Also thanks to the rest for your input, especially redlineAZ who actually offered to swing by the dealer to look at the install for me.
04-24-15, 03:23 PM
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Mods can close the thread . THIS WAS 100% INSTALL ERROR AND JOE Z UNITS SHOULD BE INSTALLED BY PROS AND EXHAUST SHOPS IDEALLY. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for the help Joe Z and Mod in Japan. I am so thankful for your time and response. Also thanks to the rest for your input, especially redlineAZ who actually offered to swing by the dealer to look at the install for me.
It was a pleasure speaking with you briefly...
Be sure to give the PTS Exhaust approx 1,000 miles to fully burn in!!!
Enjoy your short drive with it this evening..
Always happy to help.
~ Joe Z
Last edited by Joe Z; 04-24-15 at 03:31 PM.
