4yr. Evaluation of ISF with Porsche Turbo S as Benchmark
09-01-14, 03:17 PM
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4yr. Evaluation of ISF with Porsche Turbo S as Benchmark
I had a great opportunity to purchase a Porsche Turbo from a fellow friend as my career has grown, and also was a great opportunity to see how the F holds in comparison to. Yes I know this is not apples to apples but it allows me to pick apart the F and see how it holds.
The Turbo is an amazing machine, now integrated with the 7 speed PDK which did hold true to being an amazing transmission and mated with the flat six twin turbo engine. First off from speed stand point to the F yes ofcoarse we know there is no comparison. the turbo was a complete rocket. The way the transmission and engine bonded in sport or sport plus was incredible, very well done. I ran into a new corvette and easily peddled against him without effort. Once the variable turbo controller acclamated the psi input, it kicked in after a slight pause after WOT input you were gone with an onward rush of power and a gauky sounding exhaust with tons of boost going into the engine. I knew for all apparent reasons the turbo ofcoarse was faster but with such comparison I am still proud of our engine making the driving experience fun and competitive when needed.
Transmission comparison. The PDKs shift were very smooth and quick due to preselection. One thing I would like lexus to do in their tuning is as porsche did. When I would downshift in sport mode the car would up rev. without hesitation everytime no matter the gear. Also I think this was quite noticeable because one less gear required more rpm for the porsche. But our eight speed in comparision to 6 year difference and technology I must say lexus is quite spot on still very good for the super car to sedan comparo, 50K vs, 150K, etc.
All in all just wanted to throw a quick comparison in. Its hard to compare apples to oranges but brings in perspective to the matter. The Porsche is an amazing track car I compete with the best , launch control FYI insane! 4 wheel drive drifts, etc. This level of car when those switch takes a trained driver, and I would insist a driving school porches driving experience etc to understand limitations of the car in a controlled environment before you push to the limits on the street, etc.
Nonetheless, you just would have to have the ISF and Porsche bc the rear seats are useless in the Porsche, but for that drive and the thrill what a machine. Thus, I can see why those go to the GTR I never pulled the trigger 2 years ago bc fit and finish and headliner dropping on a 80K car, but still a very good option. At the end of the day my ISF cost me $42K with 12K miles in 09, and this tubo was $172K one year ago and now has 15K on it...so for $130K difference I say the F is a damn good car
The Turbo is an amazing machine, now integrated with the 7 speed PDK which did hold true to being an amazing transmission and mated with the flat six twin turbo engine. First off from speed stand point to the F yes ofcoarse we know there is no comparison. the turbo was a complete rocket. The way the transmission and engine bonded in sport or sport plus was incredible, very well done. I ran into a new corvette and easily peddled against him without effort. Once the variable turbo controller acclamated the psi input, it kicked in after a slight pause after WOT input you were gone with an onward rush of power and a gauky sounding exhaust with tons of boost going into the engine. I knew for all apparent reasons the turbo ofcoarse was faster but with such comparison I am still proud of our engine making the driving experience fun and competitive when needed.
Transmission comparison. The PDKs shift were very smooth and quick due to preselection. One thing I would like lexus to do in their tuning is as porsche did. When I would downshift in sport mode the car would up rev. without hesitation everytime no matter the gear. Also I think this was quite noticeable because one less gear required more rpm for the porsche. But our eight speed in comparision to 6 year difference and technology I must say lexus is quite spot on still very good for the super car to sedan comparo, 50K vs, 150K, etc.
All in all just wanted to throw a quick comparison in. Its hard to compare apples to oranges but brings in perspective to the matter. The Porsche is an amazing track car I compete with the best , launch control FYI insane! 4 wheel drive drifts, etc. This level of car when those switch takes a trained driver, and I would insist a driving school porches driving experience etc to understand limitations of the car in a controlled environment before you push to the limits on the street, etc.
Nonetheless, you just would have to have the ISF and Porsche bc the rear seats are useless in the Porsche, but for that drive and the thrill what a machine. Thus, I can see why those go to the GTR I never pulled the trigger 2 years ago bc fit and finish and headliner dropping on a 80K car, but still a very good option. At the end of the day my ISF cost me $42K with 12K miles in 09, and this tubo was $172K one year ago and now has 15K on it...so for $130K difference I say the F is a damn good car
09-01-14, 03:43 PM
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noooo its a convertible.. still a turbo.. and a s. LOL.
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09-01-14, 03:49 PM
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Transmission comparison. The PDKs shift were very smooth and quick due to preselection. One thing I would like lexus to do in their tuning is as porsche did. When I would downshift in sport mode the car would up rev. without hesitation everytime no matter the gear. Also I think this was quite noticeable because one less gear required more rpm for the porsche.
either way, awesome car man, what a blast it must be. i've never ridden in a porsche before let alone a turbo S, one day though! fit and finish on them are great. as it should be!
09-01-14, 04:30 PM
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obviously no comparison as the pdk is one of the best transmissions you can have, but the F does blip on all downshifts i've noticed, but maybe not near as aggressively or as noticeable like from 8 down to 7 and 6, but still it does so slightly. or do you mean from 2 to 1?
either way, awesome car man, what a blast it must be. i've never ridden in a porsche before let alone a turbo S, one day though! fit and finish on them are great. as it should be!
either way, awesome car man, what a blast it must be. i've never ridden in a porsche before let alone a turbo S, one day though! fit and finish on them are great. as it should be!
i had a boxster a few years back what a turd but was fun. I drove my exs fathers new 997 Carrera S about 4 years ago now and still had a weak tranny that was replaced after 2k miles, but now the newer carreras ofcoarse due to tranny etc are much more enjoyeable. These cars are beautiful but im finding it hard to ever daily spending such money unless my income exceeds 200K where I dont even have to bat an eye at it wearing from such use. Never the less drifting 4 wheel drive around a corner is nuts and short wheelbase makes this effortless.
09-01-14, 06:15 PM
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The Turbo S doesn't sound as good as an F's V8 (like a giant shop vac) and the Turbo S's suspension is a lot firmer and causes stuff inside the car to rattle. Also, the short wheelbase makes the car pitch back and forth a lot and it's harder to get in and out of. Plus there isn't much room for golf clubs and stuff like that unless you put it in the passenger seat.
BUT, it does 0-60 in 2.7 seconds and does the quarter in 10.75 seconds at almost 130 mph stock.
Reliability isn't as high with the Turbo S as the F in my experience. My IS-F is 6 1/2 years old with 51K miles and no problems. My Turbo S blew a front diff at 17K miles.
I actually like the IS-F's transmission. All it needs is a sports + mode where it keeps it in the lowest gear possible for track purposes and where it shifts as hard as Manual mode right up to redline - would be nice for drag racing.
BUT, it does 0-60 in 2.7 seconds and does the quarter in 10.75 seconds at almost 130 mph stock.
Reliability isn't as high with the Turbo S as the F in my experience. My IS-F is 6 1/2 years old with 51K miles and no problems. My Turbo S blew a front diff at 17K miles.
I actually like the IS-F's transmission. All it needs is a sports + mode where it keeps it in the lowest gear possible for track purposes and where it shifts as hard as Manual mode right up to redline - would be nice for drag racing.
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09-01-14, 07:42 PM
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Thanks men.
ToothDoc, yeah im sure the drive train has much more to handle..my friend just got his mark II, GT3 stroked with the 4.1 kit from shark works and sounds so nasty..needs a bit of exhaust work,..we all know though thats one down side is turbos in good and bad way heavily manipulate the exhaust tone. But I will say this turbo is much different that previous versions I have ridden in.
ToothDoc, yeah im sure the drive train has much more to handle..my friend just got his mark II, GT3 stroked with the 4.1 kit from shark works and sounds so nasty..needs a bit of exhaust work,..we all know though thats one down side is turbos in good and bad way heavily manipulate the exhaust tone. But I will say this turbo is much different that previous versions I have ridden in.
09-02-14, 11:20 AM
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very nice Turbo S!
09-02-14, 08:27 PM
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The Turbo S doesn't sound as good as an F's V8 (like a giant shop vac) and the Turbo S's suspension is a lot firmer and causes stuff inside the car to rattle. Also, the short wheelbase makes the car pitch back and forth a lot and it's harder to get in and out of. Plus there isn't much room for golf clubs and stuff like that unless you put it in the passenger seat.
BUT, it does 0-60 in 2.7 seconds and does the quarter in 10.75 seconds at almost 130 mph stock.
Reliability isn't as high with the Turbo S as the F in my experience. My IS-F is 6 1/2 years old with 51K miles and no problems. My Turbo S blew a front diff at 17K miles.
I actually like the IS-F's transmission. All it needs is a sports + mode where it keeps it in the lowest gear possible for track purposes and where it shifts as hard as Manual mode right up to redline - would be nice for drag racing.
BUT, it does 0-60 in 2.7 seconds and does the quarter in 10.75 seconds at almost 130 mph stock.
Reliability isn't as high with the Turbo S as the F in my experience. My IS-F is 6 1/2 years old with 51K miles and no problems. My Turbo S blew a front diff at 17K miles.
I actually like the IS-F's transmission. All it needs is a sports + mode where it keeps it in the lowest gear possible for track purposes and where it shifts as hard as Manual mode right up to redline - would be nice for drag racing.
