USDM ISF ECU TUNE - FINAL STAGE! 2008-2013 Owner needed!
05-22-14, 09:40 PM
#241
Let's take a walk down memory lane....back to 2012 when everyone was having a good ol' time buying headers and enjoying the potential of the ISF. Nothing but happy modding and grand desires.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...olution-4.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...olution-4.html
05-22-14, 09:49 PM
#242
Then maybe they should close up shop and stick to racing.
Seems like a **** attitude to have. I'm sure they'll be great to deal with if any problems arise with that attitude.
Basically with what you've said right there it is clear as day. They're basically price gouging the silly American fan-boys just cause. Look how much cheaper the flash is for jdm cars is. You're paying the fan-boy tax.
Nothing worse than a company point blank telling you they're doing you a favor, while overcharging you at the same time.
This will be my last post in here. Best of luck with this venture. It had potential but it lacked in execution.
Seems like a **** attitude to have. I'm sure they'll be great to deal with if any problems arise with that attitude.
Basically with what you've said right there it is clear as day. They're basically price gouging the silly American fan-boys just cause. Look how much cheaper the flash is for jdm cars is. You're paying the fan-boy tax.
Nothing worse than a company point blank telling you they're doing you a favor, while overcharging you at the same time.
This will be my last post in here. Best of luck with this venture. It had potential but it lacked in execution.
With our current option 2 price for the first 4 persons. It is cheaper than the JDM ISF tune after all the expense (paypal fee, shipping cost) are added into the price.
I did try my best to work out on the best price I could.
The MSRP is higher for the USDM Spec, because it is NOT a Japan Spec ISF and they've to get the USDM information from Toyota and Denso Japan.
(Information is NOT free.) They already have all the JDM information available from their Racing Team, so these information is free for the JDM ISF.
You cannot say they are pricing it higher because we are the american fan boy.
Because it is not!
And Yes, this is traditional Japanese Company! That's why 10 years ago or 20 years ago, JDM parts is always hard to get and the best engine or best car is always in Japan.
E.G. GTR R32, R33, R34. The S13, S14 is here in the states, but the engine is not the same.
The JDM Aristo with 2JZ turbo, and the GS300 get N/A 3.0. The IS300 is not the Altezza 3SGE engine.
Honda do not have Civic Type R in the states, RSX (DC5) is a Type-S and NOT Type-R.
I cannot explain, but this is how it is.
The Novel header + exhaust is expensive and the quality is the best I've seen.
Is it overcharging? I don't think so.
Last edited by Nigel-JDMParts; 05-22-14 at 10:25 PM.
05-22-14, 11:20 PM
#243
I pmed Tugi back and told them the reason why SARD is not offering any discount on the test vehicles. And why am I not able to cover the cost out of my own pocket just to get the ball rolling.
I don't mind sharing it publicly.
In order for me to offer ONE free ecu tune, I will have to sold 70+ ECU tune.
This thread is been a little more than a week and I've got less than 30 people pm me.
And if you read the thread, it's about the same number of person.
I don't think I will sell more than 70+ ECU after all.
I don't mind sharing it publicly.
In order for me to offer ONE free ecu tune, I will have to sold 70+ ECU tune.
This thread is been a little more than a week and I've got less than 30 people pm me.
And if you read the thread, it's about the same number of person.
I don't think I will sell more than 70+ ECU after all.
And as I've mentioned several times, the reason people are complaining about the cost is because at this point they would be essentially paying to be a guinea pig! In my honest opinion, this thread shouldn't have even existed in the first place until at least 1-2 USDM vehicles had been tested and proven. Do you realize what the feedback would have been if you had started a thread which included feedback from fellow forum members along with proof that there are gains of 30-50HP to be had on a USDM vehicle? I assure you the comments would be much different than what you are seeing. You should have contacted a few high profile members in private, ones that are known and respected on the forum, and worked out an arrangement with them for the testing and then come here with the proof to start promoting the product. Starting a thread asking for volunteers to pony up several thousand dollars to be test subjects, also requiring them to do before & after dynos and write reviews - essentially promoting the product on your behalf and at their expense - is not the way that I would have done things. But that's just me, you can do what you like.
Last edited by jleonard71; 05-22-14 at 11:24 PM.
05-23-14, 12:03 AM
#244
And as I've mentioned several times, the reason people are complaining about the cost is because at this point they would be essentially paying to be a guinea pig! In my honest opinion, this thread shouldn't have even existed in the first place until at least 1-2 USDM vehicles had been tested and proven. Do you realize what the feedback would have been if you had started a thread which included feedback from fellow forum members along with proof that there are gains of 30-50HP to be had on a USDM vehicle? I assure you the comments would be much different than what you are seeing. You should have contacted a few high profile members in private, ones that are known and respected on the forum, and worked out an arrangement with them for the testing and then come here with the proof to start promoting the product. Starting a thread asking for volunteers to pony up several thousand dollars to be test subjects, also requiring them to do before & after dynos and write reviews - essentially promoting the product on your behalf and at their expense - is not the way that I would have done things. But that's just me, you can do what you like.
The profit is not $40-$50! But it is in the single digit %.
I promised SARD Racing the U.S. market is huge and it will sell and SARD agreed to support me.
But there is no free lunch, they are not doing anything for free! I need to put something on the table to get this roll.
Now, I am in the middle, I cannot go back and I can only go forward.
If it can't sell, then I will take the loss and done. No more SARD ECU tuning.
I've pm some people and they are those people who pmed me from the ECU thread that I started a year ago.
They either sold their car or they cannot make the decision right now.
Also, I need different model year. Most people who pmed me are 2008-2009, some 2010. But 2011, 2012 and 2013 is very very few. I don't think there is 2013 people pm me a year ago.
And I need 4 model years, that's why I need to start a thread and get more people to pm me.
The purpose of this thread is to get some people to pm me, then I can find the right person.
Then people start to ask where's the details, what's the price etc etc.
Now I have enough model years and you will see their result soon.
And hopefully, like you said. The comment will be different.
Last edited by Nigel-JDMParts; 05-23-14 at 12:50 AM.
05-23-14, 12:53 AM
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Ultimately people now know the price and the risk so do it or don't! Stop having a pop at the guy who is potentially delivering a tune you have been asking for since 2008!
05-23-14, 02:30 AM
#247
Based on the feedback so far I don't think you'll have any problem getting "in". But isn't a free test program or anything like that, you pay to have the tune done and you send out your ECU and get it back in a few weeks. And hope it works, otherwise you'll need to send it back for a few more weeks to get it fixed. So if you really want in PM him and I'm sure he'll set you up.
05-23-14, 02:39 AM
#248
Yes, I mean after all I am very very upset about what I read in this thread.
The profit is not $40-$50! But it is in the single digit %.
I promised SARD Racing the U.S. market is huge and it will sell and SARD agreed to support me.
But there is no free lunch, they are not doing anything for free! I need to put something on the table to get this roll.
Now, I am in the middle, I cannot go back and I can only go forward.
If it can't sell, then I will take the loss and done. No more SARD ECU tuning.
I've pm some people and they are those people who pmed me from the ECU thread that I started a year ago.
They either sold their car or they cannot make the decision right now.
Also, I need different model year. Most people who pmed me are 2008-2009, some 2010. But 2011, 2012 and 2013 is very very few. I don't think there is 2013 people pm me a year ago.
And I need 4 model years, that's why I need to start a thread and get more people to pm me.
The purpose of this thread is to get some people to pm me, then I can find the right person.
Then people start to ask where's the details, what's the price etc etc.
Now I have enough model years and you will see their result soon.
And hopefully, like you said. The comment will be different.
The profit is not $40-$50! But it is in the single digit %.
I promised SARD Racing the U.S. market is huge and it will sell and SARD agreed to support me.
But there is no free lunch, they are not doing anything for free! I need to put something on the table to get this roll.
Now, I am in the middle, I cannot go back and I can only go forward.
If it can't sell, then I will take the loss and done. No more SARD ECU tuning.
I've pm some people and they are those people who pmed me from the ECU thread that I started a year ago.
They either sold their car or they cannot make the decision right now.
Also, I need different model year. Most people who pmed me are 2008-2009, some 2010. But 2011, 2012 and 2013 is very very few. I don't think there is 2013 people pm me a year ago.
And I need 4 model years, that's why I need to start a thread and get more people to pm me.
The purpose of this thread is to get some people to pm me, then I can find the right person.
Then people start to ask where's the details, what's the price etc etc.
Now I have enough model years and you will see their result soon.
And hopefully, like you said. The comment will be different.
05-23-14, 03:13 AM
#249
So are you saying enough people have signed up to get this rolling? That's great! I for one am honestly anxious to see the results, and will probably buy the tune if it works. Just not willing to risk that kind of money on something without seeing proven results first.
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05-23-14, 04:18 AM
#250
Yes, I mean after all I am very very upset about what I read in this thread.
The profit is not $40-$50! But it is in the single digit %.
I promised SARD Racing the U.S. market is huge and it will sell and SARD agreed to support me.
But there is no free lunch, they are not doing anything for free! I need to put something on the table to get this roll.
Now, I am in the middle, I cannot go back and I can only go forward.
If it can't sell, then I will take the loss and done. No more SARD ECU tuning.
I've pm some people and they are those people who pmed me from the ECU thread that I started a year ago.
They either sold their car or they cannot make the decision right now.
Also, I need different model year. Most people who pmed me are 2008-2009, some 2010. But 2011, 2012 and 2013 is very very few. I don't think there is 2013 people pm me a year ago.
And I need 4 model years, that's why I need to start a thread and get more people to pm me.
The purpose of this thread is to get some people to pm me, then I can find the right person.
Then people start to ask where's the details, what's the price etc etc.
Now I have enough model years and you will see their result soon.
And hopefully, like you said. The comment will be different.
The profit is not $40-$50! But it is in the single digit %.
I promised SARD Racing the U.S. market is huge and it will sell and SARD agreed to support me.
But there is no free lunch, they are not doing anything for free! I need to put something on the table to get this roll.
Now, I am in the middle, I cannot go back and I can only go forward.
If it can't sell, then I will take the loss and done. No more SARD ECU tuning.
I've pm some people and they are those people who pmed me from the ECU thread that I started a year ago.
They either sold their car or they cannot make the decision right now.
Also, I need different model year. Most people who pmed me are 2008-2009, some 2010. But 2011, 2012 and 2013 is very very few. I don't think there is 2013 people pm me a year ago.
And I need 4 model years, that's why I need to start a thread and get more people to pm me.
The purpose of this thread is to get some people to pm me, then I can find the right person.
Then people start to ask where's the details, what's the price etc etc.
Now I have enough model years and you will see their result soon.
And hopefully, like you said. The comment will be different.
05-23-14, 05:26 AM
#251
So much complaining in this thread! We (I am) should be excited about this and I have ponied up the money for this. For me it was get rid of my F and buy a gtr. I've basically done everything I can, except headers, to my F. After researching the gtrlife forum you guys really don't know lucky we are. You think this is expensive? Go look up an akropovic exhaust for a gtr. Now that's paying to play. And on top of it, there is 3 bolt on mods to buy for our car essentially. We have nothing to spend our money on. I'm surprised with as many power hungry members we have that only 2 of us have payed up. I will be reporting back on my gains.
05-23-14, 06:11 AM
#252
What I find so disappointing in this thread, is that guys that have already slung plenty of money for other mods are *****ing about these prices. Based on all the whining some of you guys have done, I expected a crazy price. When I found out how much it actually was (which was half of what I expected), I wanted to slap most of you who are complaining. There's no way I could afford to do this right now, but I was very pleased with the price given everything that it does.
Nigel, thank you for making this product available to the F community.
Nigel, thank you for making this product available to the F community.
05-23-14, 07:15 AM
#253
So much complaining in this thread! We (I am) should be excited about this and I have ponied up the money for this. For me it was get rid of my F and buy a gtr. I've basically done everything I can, except headers, to my F. After researching the gtrlife forum you guys really don't know lucky we are. You think this is expensive? Go look up an akropovic exhaust for a gtr. Now that's paying to play. And on top of it, there is 3 bolt on mods to buy for our car essentially. We have nothing to spend our money on. I'm surprised with as many power hungry members we have that only 2 of us have payed up. I will be reporting back on my gains.
I remember when Amgone was promising us an ecu and how excited we all were until we realized it was a fictitious pipe dream .
Keep up the good work Nigel.
