Does RC-F offer enough benefit over the IS-F to justify jumping into it?
#1
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Does RC-F offer enough benefit over the IS-F to justify jumping into it?
As much as I like new RC-F does it offer enough benefit over IS-F to get one, yes it will be faster, yes it will handle better and yes better and newer tech, but will it be enough?
If Latest hp numbers are true between 450 to 460 hp and tq around 380 to 390 and weight over 3900lbs with starting price in low 70's to 80k with Carbo fiber roof not sure. This is all speculation at this point since Lexus still has not released any info on RC-F which is starting to make me wonder.
Stock For for stock RC-F will out performance IS-F, but my current 2011 F with ppe headers and Joe Z exhaust pretty matches those hp & tq numbers add some BC, KW, Ohlins, or Penske coilovers with FIGS mega arms, endlinks, bushings etc, throw in sikky sway bar and some good summer tires PSS or P zeros and you'll have car that should come pretty close to RC-F.
If fully load RC-F does in fact hit around 80k for me that changes everything, for that kind of money I can get several cars in that price range for10k more puts you in Porsche country or Jag F type just to mention few.
And you can't forget about one of best performance bargains out new C7 Stingray with base of 53k and boy do you get a lot of car for your money.
And you have FT 1 aka Supra will Toyota build this car or is this yet again another concept that they have No intention on building just concept to stir up media hype. I hope they do build this car if they did I would definitely considered It.
If Latest hp numbers are true between 450 to 460 hp and tq around 380 to 390 and weight over 3900lbs with starting price in low 70's to 80k with Carbo fiber roof not sure. This is all speculation at this point since Lexus still has not released any info on RC-F which is starting to make me wonder.
Stock For for stock RC-F will out performance IS-F, but my current 2011 F with ppe headers and Joe Z exhaust pretty matches those hp & tq numbers add some BC, KW, Ohlins, or Penske coilovers with FIGS mega arms, endlinks, bushings etc, throw in sikky sway bar and some good summer tires PSS or P zeros and you'll have car that should come pretty close to RC-F.
If fully load RC-F does in fact hit around 80k for me that changes everything, for that kind of money I can get several cars in that price range for10k more puts you in Porsche country or Jag F type just to mention few.
And you can't forget about one of best performance bargains out new C7 Stingray with base of 53k and boy do you get a lot of car for your money.
And you have FT 1 aka Supra will Toyota build this car or is this yet again another concept that they have No intention on building just concept to stir up media hype. I hope they do build this car if they did I would definitely considered It.
Last edited by Weapon F; 04-21-14 at 06:34 AM.
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a friend of mine from high school was a test driver for the RCF and he said it has more grip and a much better ride relative to the ISF. It has more power but is also heavier. I was going to buy one but stopped myself because I swore off EVER buying a first year model again. My LS, GS, and G35 were all first year models and they all had annoying issues that were mainly because they were the very first year of the model. I am done with that BS. Dont need to be the first one the street with a car and the first to go through the issues with the car that will need to be resolved .
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Great to know, I really hope RC-F has stunning performance numbers and put nay sayers to bed. Looking forward to see skip pad #, braking distance, 0 to 60, 1/4 mi, ring times, but will this be incremental increases in performance over IS-F or massive leap. Will it be, I must trade in my IS F right now or yes better performance but nothing earth shattering. Only lexus knows damn they need to release some figures already lol.
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I was ready to sell my car for a new stingray, but they don't let you test drive the car before hand so that choice was gone.I think the stingray is the best bang for the buck.. but anyways to get to the op's thread, I think for the price the RC-F is not worth jumping into immediately, for 80k you're also talking about getting the new m3/m4 which has a lot better number then the RCF.
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#8
HP for the RC-F is 450, not 350. I got my F because I needed a luxury car to fit into the new neighborhood, but didn't want to lose performance. The RC-F is not as friendly to back seat passengers, so would not be an option. I do have an extra slot in the garage, and would love to fill it with an FT-1
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HP for the RC-F is 450, not 350. I got my F because I needed a luxury car to fit into the new neighborhood, but didn't want to lose performance. The RC-F is not as friendly to back seat passengers, so would not be an option. I do have an extra slot in the garage, and would love to fill it with an FT-1
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I was ready to sell my car for a new stingray, but they don't let you test drive the car before hand so that choice was gone.I think the stingray is the best bang for the buck.. but anyways to get to the op's thread, I think for the price the RC-F is not worth jumping into immediately, for 80k you're also talking about getting the new m3/m4 which has a lot better number then the RCF.
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#11
Isf and rcf aren't really comparable. Isf is a proper family car where as the rcf is a compromised family car.
That 'supra' looks epic and if it is released looking like that then wow! It will be very successful as long as it performs well. Super car looks.
That 'supra' looks epic and if it is released looking like that then wow! It will be very successful as long as it performs well. Super car looks.
#12
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IMO, until proven numbers are released, no. I wouldn't make the jump based on speculation. Also, if you have to try to convince yourself to make the jump, then your gut is already telling you don't do it.
Now, if Joe-Z, or someone like him, is able to develop some nasty aftermarket upgrades pretty quickly after the RC-F hits the road, then that becomes a different matter. However right now Weapon, you've already modified your F enough to match the performance of the RC-F, so why waste the money?
Now, if Joe-Z, or someone like him, is able to develop some nasty aftermarket upgrades pretty quickly after the RC-F hits the road, then that becomes a different matter. However right now Weapon, you've already modified your F enough to match the performance of the RC-F, so why waste the money?
#13
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If its pure performance you want, the IS-F and RC-F are not it. The vette is a pure sports car plain and simple.
Also remember that the IS-F is going to be pretty niche and special because its no longer being made.
I would wait until they have been out for a while, people forget about them and the used prices fall
Also remember that the IS-F is going to be pretty niche and special because its no longer being made.
I would wait until they have been out for a while, people forget about them and the used prices fall
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By any means I am NOT discounting the RCF you're getting a Car that will have better steer feel, a absolutely stunning interior , LFA inspired dash cluster it will be great car more of GT.
For example Performance wise will differences between RC-F and IS-F be more akin to e92 M3 vs e46 M3? e92M just blow away e46m in every category expect for weight.
For example Performance wise will differences between RC-F and IS-F be more akin to e92 M3 vs e46 M3? e92M just blow away e46m in every category expect for weight.
Last edited by Weapon F; 04-21-14 at 07:30 AM.
#15
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Short answer, no.
Long answer, I love the interior on the RCF (IMO it's up there with exotics, yes, exotics), but the performance increase is not significant enough for me to make the jump, at least right away. The convenience of 4 doors is pretty nice... I do use them from time to time to go places with friends. Now if the RCF was manual....I would start saving up for one
Long answer, I love the interior on the RCF (IMO it's up there with exotics, yes, exotics), but the performance increase is not significant enough for me to make the jump, at least right away. The convenience of 4 doors is pretty nice... I do use them from time to time to go places with friends. Now if the RCF was manual....I would start saving up for one