Moving onto the RC-F?
#16
Racer
iTrader: (4)
I can see definitely choosing RC-F over any M3 (V8 or the new V6ttt) or C63.
Probable choice over RS5. I would need to drive them both to decide.
Absolutely no way to choose RC-F over 997.1 turbo, 997.1 GT3 or even 997.2 GTS,
all in the same price range pre-owned.
Porsche would be my choice, but GTR, ZO6 and Viper are also fantastic.
ISF is lots of car for the money, it is hard to make the case for any coupe.
My personal believe is that there will be a new ISF one day, actually I think
Lexus will have F for most of their line. We will end up with RCF, ISF, GSF and LSF.
#17
No shot. Not only is the RC-F too over the top with its styling, I need a sedan now since I've got a little one. The RC-F gauge cluster is certainly neat, but as mentioned, you aren't going to be able to observe many of those fancy readouts when you're looking at the road. Hopefully another IS-F comes along, or even the sweet looking GS-F prototype.
#19
I look at it this way, my current F is prob worth $45k give or take. Is the new RC-F worth me giving another $30k plus my car in trade? Even if I could afford it I'm saying no. I think majority of sales on this car will be from people who have never owned an IS-F because it's just not a big performance upgrade for us. I'm a $50k car buyer and as soon as 2010 GTR gets close to that price I will be trading my F in
#23
I'm not trading the F for the RC-F either. Now that I have headers and exhaust, I'm probably already at 470 hp give or take. In addition, my F is about 200-300 pounds lighter than the RC-F. That means my F is probably faster in a straight line and possibly just as fast on a track. The RC-F is more of a lateral shift than an upgrade IMO. Besides, they'll probably only give me 30 at trade in and I'll have to come up with 40K+TTL.
#25
Lexus Champion
Don't forget…Porsche ranked at the top with Lexus as far as consumer reports on quality (or something like this). Porsche is your every day super car…what's worn with driving it daily?
2nd gen IS already looked good…the IS F added some definite cues that it wasn't your normal IS…but it got people thinking…"there's something different about that car". I like that. This RC-F just SCREAMS "look at me". Seriously, that's just a car for douchebags.
#26
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (6)
Given what we know about the RC-F at the moment, it will be a lateral step for fully bolted ISF owners. The M4 is becoming a REAL option for me because according to some sources here, the base model comes with a lot standards. And historically speaking, it will be an awesome machine. GT-R or M4 for me...
#27
Instructor
Here's the thing, GTR is extra, extra expensive to maintain. Like 800 for diff fluid, 1000 for a trans flush, 2000 easy for breaks (rotors, pads). $$ for tires.
Then don't dream having problems because the trans is $$$$$$$$.
Porsche is only good if it's turbo IMO. I know cayman is a nice car, but I only want a porsche if it's turbo..
M3 nice, but gas milage sucks, maybe the new one will be nice... CTS-V lots of power all the stuff I want but looks like **** IMO. Something about american's feel like they can't follow the others and try to set their own trends, unfortunately it's not working.
Doesn't leave many other cars....
Then don't dream having problems because the trans is $$$$$$$$.
Porsche is only good if it's turbo IMO. I know cayman is a nice car, but I only want a porsche if it's turbo..
M3 nice, but gas milage sucks, maybe the new one will be nice... CTS-V lots of power all the stuff I want but looks like **** IMO. Something about american's feel like they can't follow the others and try to set their own trends, unfortunately it's not working.
Doesn't leave many other cars....
#28
Absolutely ^^^^^^^^. I would have a same list, before choosing the RC-F.
I can see definitely choosing RC-F over any M3 (V8 or the new V6ttt) or C63.
Probable choice over RS5. I would need to drive them both to decide.
Absolutely no way to choose RC-F over 997.1 turbo, 997.1 GT3 or even 997.2 GTS,
all in the same price range pre-owned.
Porsche would be my choice, but GTR, ZO6 and Viper are also fantastic.
ISF is lots of car for the money, it is hard to make the case for any coupe.
My personal believe is that there will be a new ISF one day, actually I think
Lexus will have F for most of their line. We will end up with RCF, ISF, GSF and LSF.
I can see definitely choosing RC-F over any M3 (V8 or the new V6ttt) or C63.
Probable choice over RS5. I would need to drive them both to decide.
Absolutely no way to choose RC-F over 997.1 turbo, 997.1 GT3 or even 997.2 GTS,
all in the same price range pre-owned.
Porsche would be my choice, but GTR, ZO6 and Viper are also fantastic.
ISF is lots of car for the money, it is hard to make the case for any coupe.
My personal believe is that there will be a new ISF one day, actually I think
Lexus will have F for most of their line. We will end up with RCF, ISF, GSF and LSF.
#29
I'm not trading the F for the RC-F either. Now that I have headers and exhaust, I'm probably already at 470 hp give or take. In addition, my F is about 200-300 pounds lighter than the RC-F. That means my F is probably faster in a straight line and possibly just as fast on a track. The RC-F is more of a lateral shift than an upgrade IMO. Besides, they'll probably only give me 30 at trade in and I'll have to come up with 40K+TTL.
#30
Intermediate
iTrader: (2)
UHHHHH….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh9c_V9ocyg
Don't forget…Porsche ranked at the top with Lexus as far as consumer reports on quality (or something like this). Porsche is your every day super car…what's worn with driving it daily?
I mean…you're video just shows gauges and i guess the fancy toys…how it shifts…etc.. But doesn't show anything about how it handles and how well it performs through the twists and turns… Not sure how one can make a decision if they want one or not by looking at just the gauges. I mean seriously…the car has bulges and stuff all over the place. It's not classy at all.
2nd gen IS already looked good…the IS F added some definite cues that it wasn't your normal IS…but it got people thinking…"there's something different about that car". I like that. This RC-F just SCREAMS "look at me". Seriously, that's just a car for douchebags.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh9c_V9ocyg
Don't forget…Porsche ranked at the top with Lexus as far as consumer reports on quality (or something like this). Porsche is your every day super car…what's worn with driving it daily?
I mean…you're video just shows gauges and i guess the fancy toys…how it shifts…etc.. But doesn't show anything about how it handles and how well it performs through the twists and turns… Not sure how one can make a decision if they want one or not by looking at just the gauges. I mean seriously…the car has bulges and stuff all over the place. It's not classy at all.
2nd gen IS already looked good…the IS F added some definite cues that it wasn't your normal IS…but it got people thinking…"there's something different about that car". I like that. This RC-F just SCREAMS "look at me". Seriously, that's just a car for douchebags.