Torsen Diff swap... the internals
08-03-13, 08:28 AM
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Torsen Diff swap... the internals
So I know there is tons of info out there about the ISF diff swap with say a 2011 torsen rear or say a supra 6speed/ auto rear but has anyone swapped the internals.
What Im trying to do is find out if i can swap the INTERNALS of my 2008 ISF with a torsen unit of a 6 speed or auto supra. this will entail taking the inernals of the supra and swapping the ring gear but Ive been doing research and haven't seen much any one done this yet care to share?
does anyone have any measurement of the actual diff unit inside of the carrier? etc how large/ how many bolt pattern is the diff.
What Im trying to do is find out if i can swap the INTERNALS of my 2008 ISF with a torsen unit of a 6 speed or auto supra. this will entail taking the inernals of the supra and swapping the ring gear but Ive been doing research and haven't seen much any one done this yet care to share?
does anyone have any measurement of the actual diff unit inside of the carrier? etc how large/ how many bolt pattern is the diff.
08-03-13, 10:18 AM
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The part numbers for the bearings make this an interesting question, but the measurements are not something most members here would know. I have no desire to pop open my 6 speed Torsen in my Supra to see if it would be an easy swap. FWIW, many of the auto Supras did not come with a Torsen LSD from the factory, so you need to be careful and check the build sheet on the car or open the diff if you buy one to be sure it really is the Torsen unit.
08-03-13, 02:09 PM
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The part numbers for the bearings make this an interesting question, but the measurements are not something most members here would know. I have no desire to pop open my 6 speed Torsen in my Supra to see if it would be an easy swap. FWIW, many of the auto Supras did not come with a Torsen LSD from the factory, so you need to be careful and check the build sheet on the car or open the diff if you buy one to be sure it really is the Torsen unit.
08-03-13, 05:25 PM
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The part numbers for the bearings make this an interesting question, but the measurements are not something most members here would know. I have no desire to pop open my 6 speed Torsen in my Supra to see if it would be an easy swap. FWIW, many of the auto Supras did not come with a Torsen LSD from the factory, so you need to be careful and check the build sheet on the car or open the diff if you buy one to be sure it really is the Torsen unit.
it is very interesting that the bearings are the same, could be a good stepping stone forward.
08-03-13, 06:29 PM
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new diff, = good amount of cash. if the supra diff will work it could be had cheap and help quite a few people out looking to do the same thing for cheaper. plus I do alot of mechanical work and I would prefer to do it this way as compared to the other way. and finding another used unit is almost impossible.
08-03-13, 10:40 PM
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just get a 2nd had my 11+ diff from the wreckers
even with putting a OSgiken diff centre in the ISF i had to shave the casing inside
theres alot of mucking around even with a ISF specific diff
so im guessing with a toyota supra diff
your in a world your uncertain factors
even with putting a OSgiken diff centre in the ISF i had to shave the casing inside
theres alot of mucking around even with a ISF specific diff
so im guessing with a toyota supra diff
your in a world your uncertain factors
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08-04-13, 05:25 AM
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well after looking at figs blog about installing a OS GIKEN diff into the back end I can tell you that it it may work but might be alot of changes.
http://figsengineering.blogspot.com/...-lock-tcd.html
The axles on the ISF uses a slip yolk to lock into place while the Supra uses more of a stub shaft.
Figs did say they think the ring gear will bolt on which is a good sign. Im betting that I could get this to all work with changing axles and what not.
Wish i could just find a wrecked 2011 to pull the diff from.
http://figsengineering.blogspot.com/...-lock-tcd.html
The axles on the ISF uses a slip yolk to lock into place while the Supra uses more of a stub shaft.
Figs did say they think the ring gear will bolt on which is a good sign. Im betting that I could get this to all work with changing axles and what not.
Wish i could just find a wrecked 2011 to pull the diff from.
08-04-13, 07:57 PM
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Keep in mind the Torsen is not a clutch type, and will spin like an open diff if one wheel has zero traction (i.e. hard turn, inside rear wheel off the ground). The eLSD will fix this, but it won't be as effective as a true clutch type will.
02-19-14, 08:38 AM
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So not to bring up an old thread but after more research I think an auto Mkiv supra Torsen will work in out housings. It is a 10 bolt just like ours (still trying to confirm). As far as axles, one could simply get a set of supra axles and just change the inner shaft off and it should be the same length no issues. I need to get some time to pull my diff out and do some checking.
02-19-14, 03:50 PM
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. Sadly I dont have a 10 bolt torsen in front of me but I do have a 12 bolt. this is the thread im seeing my pictures.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...-in-japan.html
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