C63 AMG story
09-01-12, 11:03 PM
#47
HAnds down...Toyota builds dependable cars...the only company that can hang with Toyota when it comes to least amount if issues and little BS problems per 100 cars sold is HONDA
Merc are POS str8 up...all in all the AMG's are killa but I dont plan on continuously fixing any car as it ages because its not built well
The company that builds our cars can say and advertise that 80% of the cars they built 20 years ago are still on the road (Corolla)
Merc, BMW can not make the same statement...because they just are not made that well.
Period.---- check consumer reports
and countless write ups about their quality decline.
Quality and reliability for me are big...if I spend money I dont want to buy crap....some people dont care about that (hence those that purchase Nissan GTR's) but I am not going to pay someone even a dollar if the product is built like crap- even if it does go really fast
My F will be here starting up strong on the coldest day just like my moms 1992 Camry LE (that still runs like a dream), long after all these AMG's, M's, and GTR's are in need of tranny transplants. and electrical & sensor issues, etc, etc, etc
Merc are POS str8 up...all in all the AMG's are killa but I dont plan on continuously fixing any car as it ages because its not built well
The company that builds our cars can say and advertise that 80% of the cars they built 20 years ago are still on the road (Corolla)
Merc, BMW can not make the same statement...because they just are not made that well.
Period.---- check consumer reports
and countless write ups about their quality decline.
Quality and reliability for me are big...if I spend money I dont want to buy crap....some people dont care about that (hence those that purchase Nissan GTR's) but I am not going to pay someone even a dollar if the product is built like crap- even if it does go really fast
My F will be here starting up strong on the coldest day just like my moms 1992 Camry LE (that still runs like a dream), long after all these AMG's, M's, and GTR's are in need of tranny transplants. and electrical & sensor issues, etc, etc, etc
09-02-12, 12:32 AM
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HAnds down...Toyota builds dependable cars...the only company that can hang with Toyota when it comes to least amount if issues and little BS problems per 100 cars sold is HONDA
Merc are POS str8 up...all in all the AMG's are killa but I dont plan on continuously fixing any car as it ages because its not built well
The company that builds our cars can say and advertise that 80% of the cars they built 20 years ago are still on the road (Corolla)
Merc, BMW can not make the same statement...because they just are not made that well.
Period.---- check consumer reports
and countless write ups about their quality decline.
Quality and reliability for me are big...if I spend money I dont want to buy crap....some people dont care about that (hence those that purchase Nissan GTR's) but I am not going to pay someone even a dollar if the product is built like crap- even if it does go really fast
My F will be here starting up strong on the coldest day just like my moms 1992 Camry LE (that still runs like a dream), long after all these AMG's, M's, and GTR's are in need of tranny transplants. and electrical & sensor issues, etc, etc, etc
Merc are POS str8 up...all in all the AMG's are killa but I dont plan on continuously fixing any car as it ages because its not built well
The company that builds our cars can say and advertise that 80% of the cars they built 20 years ago are still on the road (Corolla)
Merc, BMW can not make the same statement...because they just are not made that well.
Period.---- check consumer reports
and countless write ups about their quality decline.
Quality and reliability for me are big...if I spend money I dont want to buy crap....some people dont care about that (hence those that purchase Nissan GTR's) but I am not going to pay someone even a dollar if the product is built like crap- even if it does go really fast
My F will be here starting up strong on the coldest day just like my moms 1992 Camry LE (that still runs like a dream), long after all these AMG's, M's, and GTR's are in need of tranny transplants. and electrical & sensor issues, etc, etc, etc
I wouldn't say the SLS,S65,S63,SL65/63,C63 Black "pos"...... You pay to play....
09-02-12, 09:21 AM
#49
When i went to Audi dealer near me when i was deciding between different cars to buy, they had used RS4 on the lot. I was dressed in gym clothes and running shoes. I waited in showroom for 15 mins and no salesperson would wait on me. When one finally agreed to show me the RS4, he says he left keys inside building and would be right back. He finally comes back out and says that i can't drive the car cause he can't find the keys. Classic example of “We don't think u can afford this car“ gimmick that i know they were playing
09-02-12, 09:25 AM
#50
I had the same exact scenario at a BMW dealership in OC the week i was trying to finalize which car to buy. I came straight from the gym down the street looking to test drive an M3 - walked around the lot for awhile with no sales rep to greet me or ask if I had questions - i decided to leave - drove to Mission Viejo Lexus, was greeted by a hot chick and 5 minutes later test driving an F... decision final
09-02-12, 09:44 AM
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Wow gtr is Crap because a few ppl have had tranny issues? Guess you'll never get to enjoy anything "better" than an isf if you are always worried about something breaking. Some of us are willing to take the risk to enjoy something different and maybe even more enjoyable than the F. Now don't get me wrong I love my isf but not all amgs or gtrs are Crap..
HAnds down...Toyota builds dependable cars...the only company that can hang with Toyota when it comes to least amount if issues and little BS problems per 100 cars sold is HONDA
Merc are POS str8 up...all in all the AMG's are killa but I dont plan on continuously fixing any car as it ages because its not built well
The company that builds our cars can say and advertise that 80% of the cars they built 20 years ago are still on the road (Corolla)
Merc, BMW can not make the same statement...because they just are not made that well.
Period.---- check consumer reports
and countless write ups about their quality decline.
Quality and reliability for me are big...if I spend money I dont want to buy crap....some people dont care about that (hence those that purchase Nissan GTR's) but I am not going to pay someone even a dollar if the product is built like crap- even if it does go really fast
My F will be here starting up strong on the coldest day just like my moms 1992 Camry LE (that still runs like a dream), long after all these AMG's, M's, and GTR's are in need of tranny transplants. and electrical & sensor issues, etc, etc, etc
Merc are POS str8 up...all in all the AMG's are killa but I dont plan on continuously fixing any car as it ages because its not built well
The company that builds our cars can say and advertise that 80% of the cars they built 20 years ago are still on the road (Corolla)
Merc, BMW can not make the same statement...because they just are not made that well.
Period.---- check consumer reports
and countless write ups about their quality decline.
Quality and reliability for me are big...if I spend money I dont want to buy crap....some people dont care about that (hence those that purchase Nissan GTR's) but I am not going to pay someone even a dollar if the product is built like crap- even if it does go really fast
My F will be here starting up strong on the coldest day just like my moms 1992 Camry LE (that still runs like a dream), long after all these AMG's, M's, and GTR's are in need of tranny transplants. and electrical & sensor issues, etc, etc, etc
09-02-12, 11:59 AM
#52
When I was buying my GT-R, I went into my local Nissan dealership and basically told the young, new salesman to get me some numbers on one and call me (they didn't have one). So I end up buying one 2 hours away. Long story short, the first time I took it in for service, the GM of this local dealership comes to me to chat about the car and asks me where I bought it. I told him my story about his salesman. Oops!
Also, a few years back I wanted to test drive a new Corvette. Same situation kind of. Young salesman tells me they don't let people test drive Corvettes. So, I left.....still don't know if that's true, but I wasn't going to bother with that dealership. I test drive every car I buy.
Also, a few years back I wanted to test drive a new Corvette. Same situation kind of. Young salesman tells me they don't let people test drive Corvettes. So, I left.....still don't know if that's true, but I wasn't going to bother with that dealership. I test drive every car I buy.
I agree on that as well. stock to stock, C63 AMG will def. win
09-03-12, 07:01 AM
#54
HAnds down...Toyota builds dependable cars...the only company that can hang with Toyota when it comes to least amount if issues and little BS problems per 100 cars sold is HONDA
Merc are POS str8 up...all in all the AMG's are killa but I dont plan on continuously fixing any car as it ages because its not built well
The company that builds our cars can say and advertise that 80% of the cars they built 20 years ago are still on the road (Corolla)
Merc, BMW can not make the same statement...because they just are not made that well.
Period.---- check consumer reports
and countless write ups about their quality decline.
Quality and reliability for me are big...if I spend money I dont want to buy crap....some people dont care about that (hence those that purchase Nissan GTR's) but I am not going to pay someone even a dollar if the product is built like crap- even if it does go really fast
My F will be here starting up strong on the coldest day just like my moms 1992 Camry LE (that still runs like a dream), long after all these AMG's, M's, and GTR's are in need of tranny transplants. and electrical & sensor issues, etc, etc, etc
Merc are POS str8 up...all in all the AMG's are killa but I dont plan on continuously fixing any car as it ages because its not built well
The company that builds our cars can say and advertise that 80% of the cars they built 20 years ago are still on the road (Corolla)
Merc, BMW can not make the same statement...because they just are not made that well.
Period.---- check consumer reports
and countless write ups about their quality decline.
Quality and reliability for me are big...if I spend money I dont want to buy crap....some people dont care about that (hence those that purchase Nissan GTR's) but I am not going to pay someone even a dollar if the product is built like crap- even if it does go really fast
My F will be here starting up strong on the coldest day just like my moms 1992 Camry LE (that still runs like a dream), long after all these AMG's, M's, and GTR's are in need of tranny transplants. and electrical & sensor issues, etc, etc, etc
09-04-12, 07:21 AM
#56
I think the LC5 on the 2013 GTR is more bulletproof than the previous versions. I think Nissan has ironed out these issues after seeing their trannys fail in the past. Just like how the 2008 ISF's had some issues (water pump leakage, pulling to right, rearview mirror shaking), the later versions of the F don't have these.
09-05-12, 12:05 PM
#57
I think the LC5 on the 2013 GTR is more bulletproof than the previous versions. I think Nissan has ironed out these issues after seeing their trannys fail in the past. Just like how the 2008 ISF's had some issues (water pump leakage, pulling to right, rearview mirror shaking), the later versions of the F don't have these.
09-05-12, 02:48 PM
#59
Just got back from BMW looking at the new M5 that they just got. When I was pulling out, there was a C63 behind me with 3 people in it (looked like a test drive). I hammered it (with no mufflers) and they took chase. Bet they were thinking that thing sounded awesome!
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