My battle with Nitto
09-21-11, 07:43 PM
#16
Fap I own a auto repair shop so I will give you my professional opinion, I still dabble in and was once a forensic investigator, meaning if you died, I figured our why and how. ( Our shop sells anywhere from 75 to 100 sets of tires a week) The first tire almost certainly failed due to improper tire mounting, this can range from they did not use enough lube on the tire to the bead of the tire slipped under the mounting head of the tire mounting machine, there are many things that can cause this type of tire failure. the second tire appears to have been damage by being pinched by the wheel, this causes a slice in the tire sidewall (thereby severing the nylon cords in the sidewall) which continues to weaken over time and eventually failed in the manor seen. Hope this helps. And PLEASE make sure the next company mounting your tires has the proper equipment to mount them.
09-22-11, 07:17 AM
#18
Can you post up a pic of the third tire? Usually the telltale information is found inside the tire on the sidewall where the initial damage took place. That being said I am NOT a fan of Nitto tires. They may make a decent competition tire (honestly not an area I am involved in, but we have never received positive praise from customers on their performance, and longevity, we make it a point to NOT offer them for sale at our facility.
09-22-11, 09:07 AM
#19
Nitto Invo is a nice looking tire, that's it. The sidewall is too soft to consider it a performance tire, something that the ISF needs.
Let me see if I understand this correctly, have all 3 tires been mounted on the same wheel? Have you checked the wheel for imperfections?
Now that you mentioned the Eagle F1s, I was on the market for new tires a couple of weeks ago, same sizes as yours. My previous setup was Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, terrific tires, not a single complain! I wanted to try something different so I decided to go with the Michelin PSS... too bad they don't have the front size, only rears. After days of research I went with the Good Year Eagle F1 Asymmetric. From the hundreds of reviews that I read some people complained about 2 things: road noise (which I discarded as in these sizes there will always be road noise), and tread life. For a summer tire I don't expect them to last a long time, especially considering the way I drive, so I searched online and found that Tire Rack had them at closeout. Well, I can't be happier, the tires are great, sharp cornering and steering response, grip is better than the OEM Bridgstone and Vredestein... and best of all is the closeout price, all 4 tires for $550. I checked a couple of days ago and they're still at closeout price.
Let me see if I understand this correctly, have all 3 tires been mounted on the same wheel? Have you checked the wheel for imperfections?
Now that you mentioned the Eagle F1s, I was on the market for new tires a couple of weeks ago, same sizes as yours. My previous setup was Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, terrific tires, not a single complain! I wanted to try something different so I decided to go with the Michelin PSS... too bad they don't have the front size, only rears. After days of research I went with the Good Year Eagle F1 Asymmetric. From the hundreds of reviews that I read some people complained about 2 things: road noise (which I discarded as in these sizes there will always be road noise), and tread life. For a summer tire I don't expect them to last a long time, especially considering the way I drive, so I searched online and found that Tire Rack had them at closeout. Well, I can't be happier, the tires are great, sharp cornering and steering response, grip is better than the OEM Bridgstone and Vredestein... and best of all is the closeout price, all 4 tires for $550. I checked a couple of days ago and they're still at closeout price.
09-22-11, 09:23 AM
#20
Nitto Invo is a nice looking tire, that's it. The sidewall is too soft to consider it a performance tire, something that the ISF needs.
Let me see if I understand this correctly, have all 3 tires been mounted on the same wheel? Have you checked the wheel for imperfections?
Now that you mentioned the Eagle F1s, I was on the market for new tires a couple of weeks ago, same sizes as yours. My previous setup was Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, terrific tires, not a single complain! I wanted to try something different so I decided to go with the Michelin PSS... too bad they don't have the front size, only rears. After days of research I went with the Good Year Eagle F1 Asymmetric. From the hundreds of reviews that I read some people complained about 2 things: road noise (which I discarded as in these sizes there will always be road noise), and tread life. For a summer tire I don't expect them to last a long time, especially considering the way I drive, so I searched online and found that Tire Rack had them at closeout. Well, I can't be happier, the tires are great, sharp cornering and steering response, grip is better than the OEM Bridgstone and Vredestein... and best of all is the closeout price, all 4 tires for $550. I checked a couple of days ago and they're still at closeout price.
Let me see if I understand this correctly, have all 3 tires been mounted on the same wheel? Have you checked the wheel for imperfections?
Now that you mentioned the Eagle F1s, I was on the market for new tires a couple of weeks ago, same sizes as yours. My previous setup was Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta, terrific tires, not a single complain! I wanted to try something different so I decided to go with the Michelin PSS... too bad they don't have the front size, only rears. After days of research I went with the Good Year Eagle F1 Asymmetric. From the hundreds of reviews that I read some people complained about 2 things: road noise (which I discarded as in these sizes there will always be road noise), and tread life. For a summer tire I don't expect them to last a long time, especially considering the way I drive, so I searched online and found that Tire Rack had them at closeout. Well, I can't be happier, the tires are great, sharp cornering and steering response, grip is better than the OEM Bridgstone and Vredestein... and best of all is the closeout price, all 4 tires for $550. I checked a couple of days ago and they're still at closeout price.
nice Juanca! good deal. so we have a couple of good tires to choose from and a not so good nitto. Hope u resolve ur problem with Nitto Fapout. I'm on continentals DW and love em. next time i might try michelins PSS or vredestein.
09-23-11, 12:25 AM
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Im not too keen on 20s and rubber band tires but....
Could it be because the Load Rating is SL, 90W only able to hold 600kg, below the recommended XL rating?
I could be wrong, just thinking on the keyboard... I remember a thread where everyone was like.. "use XL rated tires only or else"
Could it be because the Load Rating is SL, 90W only able to hold 600kg, below the recommended XL rating?
I could be wrong, just thinking on the keyboard... I remember a thread where everyone was like.. "use XL rated tires only or else"
09-23-11, 09:55 PM
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Nitto Invo are notorious for complaints. Just google it. Overpriced, cheap made tires with known problems across the boards. Stay away from Nitto as a whole. I rather go with "sunny" then Nitto.
09-24-11, 07:48 AM
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I own Nitto Invo's but im not defending them, just observing your pictures and stating what i think based on that. Either way ill be paying closer attention to mine from now on. I wanted Pirelli's not Nitto's anyway but they have been on national backorder for MONTHS
.....so these are temporary till that "little" company can get off thier *** and make my tires!! (285/25/20)
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