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03-23-15, 12:12 PM
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I bought my carbon fiber helmet through HCI for $99. You know you want a CF helmet. Its an M rated helmet not SA but M is good enough for the track.
03-23-15, 12:41 PM
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No offense intended, but if there's one thing I've taken away from 28 years of racing motorcycles and tracking cars, "good enough" and "$99" when talking about head protection is unwise.
I'd recommend looking into Simpson helmets jum3.
I'd recommend looking into Simpson helmets jum3.
03-23-15, 12:46 PM
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Additionally many groups won't allow 'M' helmets to be used in their events.
Don't go cheap on your noggin protection.
Don't go cheap on your noggin protection.
03-23-15, 01:18 PM
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I have an SA also but M is approved so it works for me. Plus riding in a car and riding a motorcycle are two very different things. I see your point but Im happy with what I have
SA has a slightly higher ( very small) fire safety rating and is also rated for roll bar impact whereas M is not. Considering I am on track in a stock luxury car roll bars are not an issue and I am willing to have a slightly lower level of fire protection considering the relatively low speeds I see and again I am in a stock car. We are just following each other at high speeds. No racing.
M is fine .....for this F'er LMAO
SA has a slightly higher ( very small) fire safety rating and is also rated for roll bar impact whereas M is not. Considering I am on track in a stock luxury car roll bars are not an issue and I am willing to have a slightly lower level of fire protection considering the relatively low speeds I see and again I am in a stock car. We are just following each other at high speeds. No racing.
M is fine .....for this F'er LMAO
03-23-15, 02:17 PM
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Certainly, riding a motorcycle vs driving a car on track are two different things...but the consequences of head impact at speed are the same. Whether bike or car, saving a buck on head protection really isn't something I'd personally recommend...that's all man. 
03-23-15, 02:44 PM
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I have a Motorcycle helmet, but I read that most HPDE won't let you use it.
03-23-15, 02:59 PM
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http://www.ogracing.com/blog/2013/04/helmet-rentals/
03-24-15, 01:17 PM
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reminds me that 100% of the track days I have been to have rental helmets. I just didnt want someones sweat on my head. I shave my head bald with a razor and I prefer my own cooties. LOL They even have mobile track/race shops at the events where you can get a good deal at the track.
03-24-15, 01:28 PM
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reminds me that 100% of the track days I have been to have rental helmets. I just didnt want someones sweat on my head. I shave my head bald with a razor and I prefer my own cooties. LOL They even have mobile track/race shops at the events where you can get a good deal at the track.
Don't count on rental helmets being available. Here in the SE I've only seen them for rent onsite at maybe 10 events out of hundreds... hate to show up expecting to get one and then not be able to drive.
03-24-15, 01:45 PM
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If you ever need your helmet to do the thing it is designed to do, you will forget all about what you paid for it. If it fails to protect you adequately, odds are really good the few hundred dollars you saved will not mean much.
Some of us have spinal cord injuries and understand the importance of not further damaging ourselves or living a life of constant pain mitigation strategies. If you're OK with joining our club, feel free to buy the cheapest helmet you can get. I have raced with Bell and Shoei helmets. My car helmet is SA rated Snell approved and SFI approved, my motorcycle helmets were all Snell approved regardless of where I used them (street or track). I have never gone "cheap" on a helmet because the one time you need it to do what it does, you really want the best possible one you can get without any regard for cost.
Some of us have spinal cord injuries and understand the importance of not further damaging ourselves or living a life of constant pain mitigation strategies. If you're OK with joining our club, feel free to buy the cheapest helmet you can get. I have raced with Bell and Shoei helmets. My car helmet is SA rated Snell approved and SFI approved, my motorcycle helmets were all Snell approved regardless of where I used them (street or track). I have never gone "cheap" on a helmet because the one time you need it to do what it does, you really want the best possible one you can get without any regard for cost.
03-24-15, 03:02 PM
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Sorry to veer the thread further off topic regarding proper head protection, but hey, I guess if it keeps another member a little safer who's new to tracking, then it's worth it.
I also spent a number of years as a corner marshal at racetracks around So Cal so have seen the worst of the worst in regards to head injuries. Just because you're in a car vs exposed to the elements on a motorcycle, it doesn't mean lesser injuries in the least. I've actually responded to more fatalities at car racing/tracking events than in superbike/supersport motorcycle events. The reason being, the vast majority of on track bike accidents involve the rider tucking the front and sliding off track without taking the brunt of a G force impact. In comparison, the G forces involved with cars due to the higher weight of the vehicles means typically any impact forces are directly transferred through the spine/neck/head area of the driver at a much higher G force level. A good example being Dale Earnhardt's pre-hans device crash, where it didn't look like a huge crash on impact but the G-forces involved were substantial and fatal.
I also spent a number of years as a corner marshal at racetracks around So Cal so have seen the worst of the worst in regards to head injuries. Just because you're in a car vs exposed to the elements on a motorcycle, it doesn't mean lesser injuries in the least. I've actually responded to more fatalities at car racing/tracking events than in superbike/supersport motorcycle events. The reason being, the vast majority of on track bike accidents involve the rider tucking the front and sliding off track without taking the brunt of a G force impact. In comparison, the G forces involved with cars due to the higher weight of the vehicles means typically any impact forces are directly transferred through the spine/neck/head area of the driver at a much higher G force level. A good example being Dale Earnhardt's pre-hans device crash, where it didn't look like a huge crash on impact but the G-forces involved were substantial and fatal.
03-24-15, 04:04 PM
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Didn't mean to hijack this thread into a helmet thing. But looks like Big-brother is watching:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...wout-sale.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...wout-sale.html
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