Anyone ever cross shop Panamera's?
10-09-16, 03:46 AM
#1
Anyone ever cross shop Panamera's?
Just curious, as I never considered this car when I was looking for my F, but it generally would have fit the bill of what I was looking for--V8, 4 doors, auto trains, RWD, etc.
i took a quick look on Autotrader and the hit these cars are taking is incredible--there was a 2011 V8 S with around 50k miles with the original sticker showing 111,000$ Going for like $40k!! That's not too much more than I paid for my 2011 F.
The Panamera is not a pretty car in pictures, but can look pretty sweet in real life.
just curious if anyone cross shopped this and/or if I missed out on the opportunity to own a Porsche!
i took a quick look on Autotrader and the hit these cars are taking is incredible--there was a 2011 V8 S with around 50k miles with the original sticker showing 111,000$ Going for like $40k!! That's not too much more than I paid for my 2011 F.
The Panamera is not a pretty car in pictures, but can look pretty sweet in real life.
just curious if anyone cross shopped this and/or if I missed out on the opportunity to own a Porsche!
10-09-16, 04:14 AM
#3
Didn't cross shop when I looking for an F, but I have to agree with you, in person it looks quite stunning! Especially the GTS edition. In an ideal situation I would keep the F regardless for my hooliganism. I would love to pick up something like this for it's leg room, luxury, and to haul my friends around on the weekend. Not to mention my family. I was thinking GS or even a Maserati. I would prefer this vehicle, though. I would have to read on maintenance and see what the reliability dept looks like. If it isn't reasonable, then that will be a deal breaker for me.
10-09-16, 05:28 AM
#4
Agreed. The F is actually much smaller inside than I would have imagined. I have two boys 7.5 and 4.5 years old and the back seat is already a tight squeeze for legroom. I would actually estimate that my old G coupe has as much, or MORE, back seat room than the F??? Never would have guessed that. The Panamera looks to have better leg room.
I would stay away from the supercharged 6's in the Panameras, as these are Audi engines that burn oil like crazy. I would hope that the Porsche sourced V8 would be a safe option.
I would stay away from the supercharged 6's in the Panameras, as these are Audi engines that burn oil like crazy. I would hope that the Porsche sourced V8 would be a safe option.
10-09-16, 06:54 AM
#6
Lexus Test Driver
Both CLS and the S7 and A7 supercharged are amazing as well. These cars are as quick and as sporty to drive as the RCF and are super nice on inside and looks. I am a Porsche guy through and through and is given the option . . . S7 may be the way to go even over the RCF. Been driving this bad boy and ended up looking king it better than the CLS.
The GSF isn't selling because it is crap, b-fugly and dull in low revs and city driving compared to the Germans in person. The supercharged A7 and the CLS FI pull like a bunch banshees at very low RPMs. Torque baby . . . low end torque.
Can let go of the attached for the price of a used RCF.
The GSF isn't selling because it is crap, b-fugly and dull in low revs and city driving compared to the Germans in person. The supercharged A7 and the CLS FI pull like a bunch banshees at very low RPMs. Torque baby . . . low end torque.
Can let go of the attached for the price of a used RCF.
10-09-16, 10:42 AM
#7
Agreed. The F is actually much smaller inside than I would have imagined. I have two boys 7.5 and 4.5 years old and the back seat is already a tight squeeze for legroom. I would actually estimate that my old G coupe has as much, or MORE, back seat room than the F??? Never would have guessed that. The Panamera looks to have better leg room.
I would stay away from the supercharged 6's in the Panameras, as these are Audi engines that burn oil like crazy. I would hope that the Porsche sourced V8 would be a safe option.
I would stay away from the supercharged 6's in the Panameras, as these are Audi engines that burn oil like crazy. I would hope that the Porsche sourced V8 would be a safe option.
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10-09-16, 08:25 PM
#9
I have both so I can give a pretty good comparison.
My Daily: '08 ISF, header/exhaust/intake, kw coilovers
Wife's Daily: '14 Panamera GTS, stock
As much as I love the ISF, I have to be honest...I reach for the Panamera keys on the weekends whenever the wife isn't looking. My ISF (with mods) is more raw and harsh and I guess probably a little quicker, but the V8 Panamera is one of the best cars I've owned (my prior daily was a V10 M5 for comparison).
Exhaust Note: Stock Panamera GTS (Sports Exhaust) vs Stock ISF: No comparison, Panamera wins
Acceleration: I'd say my modded ISF edges out the Panamera. Stock vs. stock, Panamera GTS would walk away from ISF.
Transmission: PDK on Porsche is amazing, but the ISF is surprisingly good. Close tie with slight advantage to Panamera especially on high RPM upshifts
Exterior: subjective. I LOVE how the ISF looks with the right mods. The Panamera needs more of a drop than the stock air suspension allows. Slight edge to ISF
Interior: not even close...Panamera is much roomier especially in back seat (tons of room for my kids). The finish of it all is incredible. Amazing interior on the Porsche.
Handling: KW Coilover ISF vs. Stock Panamera GTS (suspension set to Sport)...Panamera is much more forgiving and yet lets you take curves at stupid speeds. Panamera wins.
Gas Consumption: pretty even
Reliability: so far, a tie with no issues on either. But I would not want to deal with a Panamera out of warranty with higher mileage, if anything ever does go wrong.
Not a fair comparison to be honest if you throw a Panamera GTS into the mix. If it was a base V6 or maybe even a base V8, it might be closer.
(this is coming from someone who loves his ISF, has owned it for 5 years and will drive it to the ground with zero intention of selling it).
My Daily: '08 ISF, header/exhaust/intake, kw coilovers
Wife's Daily: '14 Panamera GTS, stock
As much as I love the ISF, I have to be honest...I reach for the Panamera keys on the weekends whenever the wife isn't looking. My ISF (with mods) is more raw and harsh and I guess probably a little quicker, but the V8 Panamera is one of the best cars I've owned (my prior daily was a V10 M5 for comparison).
Exhaust Note: Stock Panamera GTS (Sports Exhaust) vs Stock ISF: No comparison, Panamera wins
Acceleration: I'd say my modded ISF edges out the Panamera. Stock vs. stock, Panamera GTS would walk away from ISF.
Transmission: PDK on Porsche is amazing, but the ISF is surprisingly good. Close tie with slight advantage to Panamera especially on high RPM upshifts
Exterior: subjective. I LOVE how the ISF looks with the right mods. The Panamera needs more of a drop than the stock air suspension allows. Slight edge to ISF
Interior: not even close...Panamera is much roomier especially in back seat (tons of room for my kids). The finish of it all is incredible. Amazing interior on the Porsche.
Handling: KW Coilover ISF vs. Stock Panamera GTS (suspension set to Sport)...Panamera is much more forgiving and yet lets you take curves at stupid speeds. Panamera wins.
Gas Consumption: pretty even
Reliability: so far, a tie with no issues on either. But I would not want to deal with a Panamera out of warranty with higher mileage, if anything ever does go wrong.
Not a fair comparison to be honest if you throw a Panamera GTS into the mix. If it was a base V6 or maybe even a base V8, it might be closer.
(this is coming from someone who loves his ISF, has owned it for 5 years and will drive it to the ground with zero intention of selling it).
10-09-16, 10:13 PM
#10
There we have it!! A review can't get much more direct and better than that!!^^^
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10-10-16, 03:41 AM
#11
Awesome! Sadly though, it makes me wish I would have looked into the Panamera before the F--I just literally never thought of it.
Of course, potential maintenance costs are a concern, no doubt, and could've still ended up being a deal breaker. But seeing a 111,000$ car going for low 40s is insane. Makes you do a double take. I would imagine at the $50k point you could probably get a sweet ride--and since there are so many of these up for private sale, I'd imagine you could offer some rich Multi-Porsche owner a few bucks less and really get a good deal
Of course, potential maintenance costs are a concern, no doubt, and could've still ended up being a deal breaker. But seeing a 111,000$ car going for low 40s is insane. Makes you do a double take. I would imagine at the $50k point you could probably get a sweet ride--and since there are so many of these up for private sale, I'd imagine you could offer some rich Multi-Porsche owner a few bucks less and really get a good deal
10-10-16, 04:29 AM
#12
My brother and I were looking into getting a panamera, not to replace the ISF though. We first ruled out the GTS because, even though it was a great handling and sounding car, it was slower than my exhaust only ISF. So we decided to look into the turbo and turbo s. We were looking into one recently, but my brother decided to switch gears completely and get a gtr instead since you can get a newer with less mileage for about the same price of what we were looking for. From the test drives we took, the panamera's interior, head room and ride quality are better than the ISF. They also seem to be pretty reliable from what we researched. We never test drove or researched the models below the GTS so I can't comment on those.
10-10-16, 05:44 AM
#13
Lexus Test Driver
You cannot really judge the Panameras by the V6 base models. These are the "affordable" models and there is a reason why they are vastly cheaper then the real models. Overall driving feel (not just acceleration), they are not even remotely the same vehicle as the S or turbos.
10-10-16, 06:20 AM
#14
Lexus Test Driver
Guy at work owns a Panamera and was just telling me about the $7200 bill to repair his front air suspension. He said he had to go to the dealer as none of the local independents wanted to even look at it.
10-10-16, 07:32 AM
#15
I was actually cross shopping and test driving some. I was waiting in the Porsche dealership service lobby for them to pull one up when I heard a service consulting telling a customer over the phone that resetting the CEL would be $1300 because it was out of warranty. 