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I read the same thing. It was faster than the shift time in a street Ferrari with F1 gear box from what I remember.

RSXiMUS

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Here are some quick shifting "AUTO" cars to compare the ISF (100ms) with.

Bugatti Veyron (DSG): 200 ms[2]
AUDI (DSG)(Also S-TRONIC): 200 ms[better source needed]
Volkswagen (DSG)(Also S-TRONIC): 200 ms[better source needed]
Alfa Romeo Mito & Alfa Romeo Giulietta (2010) Dual Dry Clutch Transmission TCT: 200 ms[3]
Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 [Single clutch ISR gearbox]: 50ms
Ferrari 430 Scuderia: 60 ms[4]
BMW M3 E92 with M-DCT: 80 ms[2]
Ferrari FXX: 100 ms[5]
Drag car: 100 ms
Maserati GranTurismo S Cambiocorsa: 100 ms
Maserati GranTurismo MC Stradale 2016: 60ms
Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG: 100 ms[2]
Automatic/semi-automatic transmission: 100 ms
Clio RS EDC 200: 150 ms (race mode)[6]
Enzo Ferrari: 150 ms[2]
Nissan GT-R: 150 ms (R Mode)
FXX Evoluzione: 160 ms[2]
Lexus LFA: 200 ms
Chevrolet Camaro ZL1: 200 ms[7]
Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale & Ferrari F430: 250 ms[2]
Audi TT Quattro 3.2 (Direct Shift): 200 ms[8]
BMW M5 E60 with SMG III: 250 ms[2]
BMW M3 E36 with SMG I: 250 ms[2]
Aston Martin Vanquish: 250 ms[2]
The fastest (Race gearbox) manual: 250 ms[citation needed]
Ferrari 575M: 280 ms

FFM

Shift time in manual mode sure I could see that. But when in auto the 08 I drove was much more sluggish and not as perceptive as the ZF8 I drove in the F30 335i right after. Again a 4 year span. Plus other manufacturers use the ZF8 and it's not as good as BMW's which I believe comes down to better programming.

RSXiMUS

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Yes the ISF is definitely not at its best in auto. In fact I hardly ever drive the ISF in auto because it seemed like Lexus took "granny mode" literally when they programmed it. I think my IS350 was more sporty in auto mode.

In that sense, yes the ZF is superior in auto mode to the Aisin ISF unit if sporty driving is the goal. Then again, sometimes granny mode comes in handy if you just want to cruise comfortably, buttery smooth so I guess it's the best of both worlds?

FFM

If this 11 works out that I got my eyes on she will be my daily so granny mode will be acceptable 90% of my commute haha.

PDP180180

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Nothing wrong with having granny mode!

It's good for driving your folks or elderly relatives around. Drop them off and you can switch to attack mode for the trip home!

Love the Jekyll and Hyde personality of the F.

kings222

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so with that said....our cars shift fast AF. Also...the m3 now seeing it like that isn't hardly faster and that shouldn't even be a argument anymore.

FFM

BMW's DCT gearbox is phenomenal. It's definitely still a huge factor in the E9X M3's favor. Outside of super cars it's maybe second to PDK. Drive one, it's a freakin blast all around.

dannyk8232

HAHA Attack Mode! That's brilliant

LOWFAST

The issue is not the ISF shift time of the transmission, it is the delay from when you pull the paddle until it sends the signal and the shift happens. In my opinion the ISF is horribly slow at this part. I want an instant shift the very milisecond I pull the paddle, not a few tenths later.

Sameer89

I agree with this statement. I know RR-Racing is working on a transmission reflash as well, hopefully this is something they can address!

LOWFAST

Its funny, with a few tweaks here and there the ISF could have been a perfect sports sedan. It has all the parts and if Lexus had continued to develop it over its life span the end result would have been phenomenal. We would have had a 2014 with 467hp, lightning quick auto, sounded bad *** and rode and handled perfectly, and maybe with some carbon fiber even dropped a few pounds. Unfortunately they did not, but with the aftermarket tuning on the scene it looks like those of us with this dream will be able to slowly build it the way it should have been or even better. I told my wife that this is a car we will not be getting rid of, we will just add to the collection once it is retired from daily duty.

ISF4life

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Well said sir totally agreeing with u on this one lolz

kings222

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the whole tuning thing excites me....it makes our car in more demand as one of the guys were saying in the m3 forum. Now that its tunable were going to see a lot more parts and things to play with. Its funny tho bc now that our car is tunable some of the guys with the M3s are jealous...they're jealous of our reliability and now we got tuning

jat0223

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I agree with this but only at low RPMs. At high RPMs the response is pretty quick.