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Old 02-08-16, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Piciu
Will OEM 19x9 255x35x19 PSS clear the front? Anybody tried?
I am running RCF 19X9 wheels on the front of my ISF with 255/35/19 Bridgestone S-04 with no issues and no spacers. The inside edge of the rim of the wheel does come within a whisker of the A Arm, but clears it just fine. With the 9" RCF wheels, there is actually more space between the wheel spokes and the front caliper. I can actually reach behind the wheels spokes now and wax the caliper. That was not possible with the stock 8" ISF wheel.

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OK, RCF front is 19x9 ET50, ISF rear is 19x9 ET55, so there is 5mm difference and ISF's wheel would go more inside. Do you think there is additional 5mm to the A arm?
I don't like spacers.

I guess I will need to wait till winter is over and once I have my summer wheels on I will just swap rears to the front and have a go. If it works, it would be the best option for me. I will report back later.
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Originally Posted by Piciu
OK, RCF front is 19x9 ET50, ISF rear is 19x9 ET55, so there is 5mm difference and ISF's wheel would go more inside. Do you think there is additional 5mm to the A arm?
I don't like spacers.

I guess I will need to wait till winter is over and once I have my summer wheels on I will just swap rears to the front and have a go. If it works, it would be the best option for me. I will report back later.
yes it will clear
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Originally Posted by Piciu
OK, RCF front is 19x9 ET50, ISF rear is 19x9 ET55, so there is 5mm difference and ISF's wheel would go more inside. Do you think there is additional 5mm to the A arm?
Originally Posted by flowrider
The inside edge of the rim of the wheel does come within a whisker of the A Arm, but clears it just fine.
Did you read my post just above yours

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Sure I did Lou.
I wasn't sure what 'whisker' is - now I checked and I guess 5mm is more than a whisker, right?
Sorry for my English guys, but in Polish we have a lot of words which can be interpreted in different ways depending on who says it
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Originally Posted by Piciu
Sure I did Lou.
I wasn't sure what 'whisker' is - now I checked and I guess 5mm is more than a whisker, right?
Sorry for my English guys, but in Polish we have a lot of words which can be interpreted in different ways depending on who says it
Dont worry, im american and barely know what "a whisker" means.
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Hehe, ok, it makes feel a bit better
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ok so didint find this tread until after i got my tires. i got 265 30 19 on 2012 oem lexus wheels. seems to be find. and i daily my F so it seems to be ok even though the diameter is shorter.
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Originally Posted by allst4risf
ok so didint find this tread until after i got my tires. i got 265 30 19 on 2012 oem lexus wheels. seems to be find. and i daily my F so it seems to be ok even though the diameter is shorter.
Are you using that size on the front or rear (or all)? If not all, what size are the others? I believe it's the ratio between the front & rear overall diameters that is more important regarding possible impact to the suspension geometry.. Though, I could be wrong.. It wouldn't be the first time

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Originally Posted by mikersoft
Are you using that size on the front or rear (or all)? If not all, what size are the others? I believe it's the ratio between the front & rear overall diameters that is more important regarding possible impact to the suspension geometry.. Though, I could be wrong.. It wouldn't be the first time

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If only it were so simple...deviation from design diameter is the problem. Everything is measured relative to the contact patch, and reducing or increasing rolling diameter means all the numbers change. Most likely for the bad.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
If only it were so simple...deviation from design diameter is the problem. Everything is measured relative to the contact patch, and reducing or increasing rolling diameter means all the numbers change. Most likely for the bad.
Thanks for that info.. Any opinion on whether OD is more critical for front or rear (or equally so)? Also, how do you like your latest PSS combo (255/275)? Do you sense any negative impact to the suspension geometry? Have you taken it to a track with that set-up?

I'm already running 255/35 up front, and I'm seriously considering 275/30 for the rear to replace my worn 265/35. So, I'll be going from a 26.0/26.3 OD set-up to 26.0/25.6. Also, I plan to install Penske coilovers this spring, and I'm hoping any potential negative impact from this tire set-up can be mitigated with coilover adjustments.


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Nankang makes decent 19inch tires for those on a budget. I have 235/35/19 and 265/35/19. all four from America's Tire should run about less than $650 including $15 per tire insurance. however, these are one rating below Z, but still are low profile. I have thise on my 07 GS 350. I could've gone 275/30/19 though.
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Originally Posted by mindcrime
Nankang makes decent 19inch tires for those on a budget. I have 235/35/19 and 265/35/19. all four from America's Tire should run about less than $650 including $15 per tire insurance. however, these are one rating below Z, but still are low profile. I have thise on my 07 GS 350. I could've gone 275/30/19 though.
something to keep in mind when buying tires:


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Originally Posted by mikersoft
Thanks for that info.. Any opinion on whether OD is more critical for front or rear (or equally so)? Also, how do you like your latest PSS combo (255/275)? Do you sense any negative impact to the suspension geometry? Have you taken it to a track with that set-up?

I'm already running 255/35 up front, and I'm seriously considering 275/30 for the rear to replace my worn 265/35. So, I'll be going from a 26.0/26.3 OD set-up to 26.0/25.6. Also, I plan to install Penske coilovers this spring, and I'm hoping any potential negative impact from this tire set-up can be mitigated with coilover adjustments.


-Mike
The issue is not ride height, it's geometry. You can't fix a bad wheel diameter with a spring adjustment. Front is more critical IMHO because scrub radius can dramatically impact front grip. I can deal with rear grip changes better than I can deal with front grip changes. Might be just me and my motorcycle days, but that's where I am as a driver.

I am perfectly happy with my 255 fronts on 8.5" wheels. It would be nice if they were wider, but for an OEM based setup, it's pretty tough to beat.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
something to keep in mind when buying tires:

very true. not to be used in snow lol. I'm in SoCal


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