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Neither one of those products will raise octane more than 0.3 points. The octane of the contents would have to be well over 200 to raise even one point on a full tank of fuel. It might work for one gallon, but it won't work for 2 or more. If you know anything about petrochemicals and octane you would never believe any of these claims for such a tiny volume of additive.
And really - do you think we can't read? The part number on your ECM is a JDM part number, not used in any other market in the world, so stop trying to claim something else. It just is not true.
I wish a tune made +46hp. Again, I know of no normally aspirated modern car that can make anywhere near 46hp on a tune. especially a DI car which tend to run very high ignition advance already.
If someone said that they made 10-20hp on a tune + 96octane, I think that would be believable.
That said, I used the same Dashcommand iphone app, and took two datalogs to determine the "horsepower." both runs taken in 3rd gear, on the same road, in the same direction.
Neither one of those products will raise octane more than 0.3 points. The octane of the contents would have to be well over 200 to raise even one point on a full tank of fuel. It might work for one gallon, but it won't work for 2 or more. If you know anything about petrochemicals and octane you would never believe any of these claims for such a tiny volume of additive.
And really - do you think we can't read? The part number on your ECM is a JDM part number, not used in any other market in the world, so stop trying to claim something else. It just is not true.
LOL I tried looking it up and could not find anything. I figured it was suspicious
Neither one of those products will raise octane more than 0.3 points. The octane of the contents would have to be well over 200 to raise even one point on a full tank of fuel. It might work for one gallon, but it won't work for 2 or more. If you know anything about petrochemicals and octane you would never believe any of these claims for such a tiny volume of additive.
And really - do you think we can't read? The part number on your ECM is a JDM part number, not used in any other market in the world, so stop trying to claim something else. It just is not true.
Sir,
It's not that I think that you can't read , it's that's I think you are being somewhat rude.
I posed email and pics to document not obfuscate.
I'm going off what I was told in my (posted) email conversation with Novel.
Because of the pictures I included, you were able question the inconsistency that arises between a JDM Part and supposed USDM Tune. This is prudent and fruitful conversation. I welcome your furthering factual discovery. I also appreciate the education you provided about fuel additives.
However, I rather do not appreciate the insults, name calling , and false assignment of a hidden agenda that I do not possess.
I wish a tune made +46hp. Again, I know of no normally aspirated modern car that can make anywhere near 46hp on a tune. especially a DI car which tend to run very high ignition advance already.
If someone said that they made 10-20hp on a tune + 96octane, I think that would be believable.
That said, I used the same Dashcommand iphone app, and took two datalogs to determine the "horsepower." both runs taken in 3rd gear, on the same road, in the same direction.
Insults? :Name calling? False assignment of a hidden agenda? Who did this? You should report those posts to the moderators. We don't tolerate any of those things on this forum. The problem is, I haven't seen any of what you claim in this thread. If I had, I would have asked another moderator to review the thread to be sure I was not missing something or allowing a personal attack to start/continue/expand.
If you think I have done any of this, I again recommend you identify those posts using the red triangle with the exclamation mark and escalate them to the moderating team for review. The site admin is very keen on making sure none of this happens.
Insults? :Name calling? False assignment of a hidden agenda? Who did this? You should report those posts to the moderators. We don't tolerate any of those things on this forum. The problem is, I haven't seen any of what you claim in this thread. If I had, I would have asked another moderator to review the thread to be sure I was not missing something or allowing a personal attack to start/continue/expand.
If you think I have done any of this, I again recommend you identify those posts using the red triangle with the exclamation mark and escalate them to the moderating team for review. The site admin is very keen on making sure none of this happens.
Tone is very difficult to ascertain on a message board, if I'm appearing overly sensitive then I apologize .
Totally fair, but I am very skeptical only because I have talked to others who have done the same thing, and the tune does not deliver in US cars. Works great on JDM cars, but for some reason, it does not stick with US cars. I really truly wish it different, but it has not been the case.
The real test is what does it deliver a month from now, and what does it deliver with normalized parameters. It is very easy to get bad dyno numbers on this platform, it is very temperature sensitive, and managing all the temperatures for a solid before and after dyno takes someone with special skills. I wish you the best of luck, and it would truly be awesome if Novel has found a solution for the problems everyone else had including SARD.
Some of the posts in here are funny... There is even a bit of hypocrisy sadly..!!
( I'll just leave it at that )
Little known fact..
Novel came to Southern California a few years back a purchased a used CA - 2008 Lexus IS F
And shipped it to Japan..!!
This one even had the USA - Brake Pedal LSB performed..
If anyone has the means to make this work right, it will be them..!!
To the OP.. Congrats on the New Redline & Speed Limiter removal..
You want some further legitimacy to your upgrade...
DYNO your F with the stock ECU.. Leave the car on the DYNO.. SWAP to modified ECU..
And RE DYNO..
That way you can show everyone all the progress and/or power that was made..
Just my .02 cents
Joe Z
Thanks for the wisdom, sage advice
Btw gotta give props to the d'man himself . YOUR exhaust is why I bought my (new to Me) F in the first place.
It was installed on the car already before my purchase .
"Meanest, Sweetest, exhaust I have heard on a V-8 production car". Everyone, gear heads to soccer moms loves the sound the car makes. I've only ever seem one other F in San Antonio.(seen far more ferraris and lambos than Fs.)
Thank you! Your products are a special "gift" to this community.
I hope this Novel ECU provides as much enjoyment as your exhaust does. (Tall order for sure!)
But... Judging by my own "smiles per gallon" it's Gonna be COMPETITIVE!
Yes, my actual dynojet dyno numbers are all over the place. Anywhere from 350-375whp on a dynojet. It all depends on keeping the coolant temps low, and keeping the intake air temps close to ambient as possible... if you do not get consistent air intake temps, it is very easy to manipulate dyno readings on an ISF to get whatever you want, either intentionally or inadvertently.\
I actually feel I get more consistent results by datalogging and importing the results into Virtual Dyno. As long as I'm doing the runs on the same day, same direction, same road, the results are very consistent better represent what's happening on the road. But you have to be very consistent with how you do your runs, and do not use results from DC.
Rafi
Rafi.
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