C63 owner about to convert
08-05-13, 09:39 AM
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Under the right conditions I would make over 27 MPG, but there's always the itch to just stomp on the gas and *poof* the MPG will come crashing down. So a more realistic average is about 20 MPG with highway and city driving combined. I also use 93 octane.
I have a throttle controller so it helps a little but all you need is to throw it into "snow" mode and drive granny-style while in D. But where's the fun in that lol.
I know you won't be disappointed with the ISF if you decide to go with it. It's very easy on maintenance and as everyone has said before me it's the perfect blend of luxury and performance.
Good luck!
08-05-13, 10:28 AM
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Thank you very much for that clarification. I'll own up. I thought I did my research, but somehow I missed that. I did in fact think that it was a "factory tuned" 350. How are you guys getting such great gas milage? What is the displacement?
And what are the real number's of MPG that most of you are seeing? I use only 93 octane. You guys?
And what are the real number's of MPG that most of you are seeing? I use only 93 octane. You guys?
I think 20mpg in average mixed highway and city driving is realistic. My car's average is 19.7 since the last reset, which was at least 5000 miles ago. On a 200mi road trip, I can see 26-27mpg all day without even setting my cruise control. On my 11mi commute to work, if I take all "back roads" and no highway, I'll typically see 17-18ish. Like Boma said, if you stomp the gas all over the place, of course you're going to see single digit mpgs, but that's probably true for just about every car.
08-05-13, 10:59 AM
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The F is very different than any car Lexus has ever made.
Without referencing the current 2014 350 F-Sport. (and a touch of verbal advice for the future...please do not ever mistake an "F-Sport" for a true "F"... (we'll all go nuts in here and start a riot-LMAO)
The differences from an IS350 and ISF (2008-2013)
ISF Has
5.0L V8
8 speed Transmission
"Race" style bolstered Seats
Difference front and rear bumpers
different Springs
different Shocks(Tokico)
Brembo Brakes front and rear (larger frnt n rear rotor, cross drilled)
F is a 4 seater (not 5 seater like 350)
hood
front fenders
black headliner (not silver)
silver carbon fiber interior trim
larger anti-roll bars
wheels (light weight BBS forged)
exhaust
foot pedals
rear spoiler
( I think I got it all )
08-05-13, 11:16 AM
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welcome to the forum. gas mileage: stop and go traffic, 16-17. highway w/ no traffic, over 20 easily. i'm in cali, so, 91 octane only. (there are some gas stations that sell 'race fuel' but not going to spend $11/gallon on it! lol)
like someone else said, make sure you switch to "Sport" mode before the test drive. also, driving around town in manual mode will, of course, yield lower mpg but it's more fun that way, esp w/ an exhaust. good luck!
like someone else said, make sure you switch to "Sport" mode before the test drive. also, driving around town in manual mode will, of course, yield lower mpg but it's more fun that way, esp w/ an exhaust. good luck!
08-05-13, 11:19 AM
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LOL... I know you just burned the retinas of every F owner in the forum with that one...lol.
The F is very different than any car Lexus has ever made.
Without referencing the current 2014 350 F-Sport. (and a touch of verbal advice for the future...please do not ever mistake an "F-Sport" for a true "F"... (we'll all go nuts in here and start a riot-LMAO)
The differences from an IS350 and ISF (2008-2013)
ISF Has
5.0L V8
8 speed Transmission
"Race" style bolstered Seats
Difference front and rear bumpers
different Springs
different Shocks(Tokico)
Brembo Brakes front and rear (larger frnt n rear rotor, cross drilled)
F is a 4 seater (not 5 seater like 350)
hood
front fenders
black headliner (not silver)
silver carbon fiber interior trim
larger anti-roll bars
wheels (light weight BBS forged)
exhaust
foot pedals
rear spoiler
( I think I got it all )
The F is very different than any car Lexus has ever made.
Without referencing the current 2014 350 F-Sport. (and a touch of verbal advice for the future...please do not ever mistake an "F-Sport" for a true "F"... (we'll all go nuts in here and start a riot-LMAO)
The differences from an IS350 and ISF (2008-2013)
ISF Has
5.0L V8
8 speed Transmission
"Race" style bolstered Seats
Difference front and rear bumpers
different Springs
different Shocks(Tokico)
Brembo Brakes front and rear (larger frnt n rear rotor, cross drilled)
F is a 4 seater (not 5 seater like 350)
hood
front fenders
black headliner (not silver)
silver carbon fiber interior trim
larger anti-roll bars
wheels (light weight BBS forged)
exhaust
foot pedals
rear spoiler
( I think I got it all )
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As I've demonstrated to you guys already, at least I'm fu@k!ng honest. Quite a good synopsis of the breakdown and difference. I always wanted aluminum foot pedals for my 63's and was actually quite shocked that they didn't come standard. For an AMG? MB nickles-and-dimes it's customers for every little thing. On a regular C-class, yes, but an AMG? Lexus gives you so much more, standard. It's kind of crazy the comparison difference.
I do have to call you out on one item. And that is, "The F is very different than any car Lexus has ever made." Really? What about the LFA? Now that holds true to the statement, but I get what you are saying. You are talking about of their affordable cars, lol.
08-05-13, 12:19 PM
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As I've demonstrated to you guys already, at least I'm fu@k!ng honest. Quite a good synopsis of the breakdown and difference. I always wanted aluminum foot pedals for my 63's and was actually quite shocked that they didn't come standard. For an AMG? MB nickles-and-dimes it's customers for every little thing. On a regular C-class, yes, but an AMG? Lexus gives you so much more, standard. It's kind of crazy the comparison difference.
I do have to call you out on one item. And that is, "The F is very different than any car Lexus has ever made." Really? What about the LFA? Now that holds true to the statement, but I get what you are saying. You are talking about of their affordable cars, lol.
As I've demonstrated to you guys already, at least I'm fu@k!ng honest. Quite a good synopsis of the breakdown and difference. I always wanted aluminum foot pedals for my 63's and was actually quite shocked that they didn't come standard. For an AMG? MB nickles-and-dimes it's customers for every little thing. On a regular C-class, yes, but an AMG? Lexus gives you so much more, standard. It's kind of crazy the comparison difference.
I do have to call you out on one item. And that is, "The F is very different than any car Lexus has ever made." Really? What about the LFA? Now that holds true to the statement, but I get what you are saying. You are talking about of their affordable cars, lol.
I get like 17.5-18.5 in pure city, stop sign to red light junk. Add in some highway here and there and its 19-20.. pure high way is mid 20s for me.
Technically the IS-F came out before the LFA
.. even though they were designing the LFA forever lolProlly the dumbest comment in this whole thread that was pretty informative from everyone except you.
08-05-13, 03:17 PM
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I don't have much experience with the ISF as I do with the M3's or 335's. I manage the performance department here at a local BMW Dealership but as far as M3's go, as long as they're not supercharged they'll last a really long time no matter how much abuse you give it (just make sure it isn't an early 08). We have had a couple blown supercharged cars roll through here on tow trucks. Our performance service adviser actually came over from a Mercedes dealership where he mostly dealt with all the AMG cars and according to him... C63's suck! (his exact words, not mine).
I don't have an ISF but I have to admit that I can't complain at how well my AutoTragic IS250 has treated me after the many roadcourse track events I've put it through and I'm sitting at 128k miles. If the ISF is as reliable as my IS250 is then I would definitely pull the trigger on one. Good luck and excuse my first sarcastic post!
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08-05-13, 05:31 PM
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Three years back, an IS F turned a less-than-impressive 3:14.0. We said then, “A little attention to springs and damping might make this eager contender a real champ,” as the stiffly sprung F zapped confidence in high-speed corners.
Boy, were we right. Lexus has since tweaked all suspension elements. Spring rates are down in the front and up in the rear, and there are larger anti-roll bars, stiffer subframe bushings, and longer bump stops, which effectively increase spring rates when the car is nearing its maximum roll angle. Lexus also lightened the front hubs and control arms and slapped a Torsen limited-slip differential in the rear axle. The result is BMW M3–matching performance around VIR (3:05.4).
Boy, were we right. Lexus has since tweaked all suspension elements. Spring rates are down in the front and up in the rear, and there are larger anti-roll bars, stiffer subframe bushings, and longer bump stops, which effectively increase spring rates when the car is nearing its maximum roll angle. Lexus also lightened the front hubs and control arms and slapped a Torsen limited-slip differential in the rear axle. The result is BMW M3–matching performance around VIR (3:05.4).