ISFPOWER

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i use both but enjoy using the paddles a bit more. what sucks is going back and forth from this and the bmw. the bmw lever pushed down down is up shift and lexus pushed down is down shift. sometimes i get mixed up.

M3EATR

I am a mix of both, I still have not figured out what i like most... Coming from a manual trans 350z my hand goes to the shifter as a habit so I find myself using the shifter more than the paddles but I think it accelerates the same way in M mode wether you use shifter or paddles

Weapon F

+ 1 Paddles or full auto and this from someone that has had only manual cars for 20yrs up until my ISx50 and ISF.

psixtc

When making lower speed LH or RH turns at a street light/sign I use the shift lever for the 1-2 shift, however any other time I use the paddles.

vbb

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Paddles. I can't remember ever using the lever for shifting while driving.

Boma

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There's a relatively simple DIY to reverse the shifting logic in the F, which applies to any other 2IS model.

Our own lobuxracer has a nice write up complete with pics.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...=229801&page=2

Murajitul

always use paddles....you need both hands on the wheels to have full control whenever you need to and like someone said earlier, you really shouldn't let go any hand while doing 1/4 mile....

PhiDeltBee

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It's great that all of you have given me your preferences on what you use, but that wasn't my question. Does one way shift faster than the other electronically? Maybe rephrasing that helps. The tranny shifts faster in sport mode than in normal mode. I'm assuming the shift lever AND the paddles shift at the same speed, but was asking if anyone knew for sure.

And yes, I use the paddles when getting with it....I was referring to normal everyday driving. I'm used to a manual, so my hand is usually already there. I guess Lobux never drove a manual around a track and had to take a hand off to shift? Wouldn't this be the same?

Anyway, back to the question.

aWorkOfArt

+1 for using both

lobuxracer

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I drove manuals exclusively for more than 30 years. It's not the same. There are things you can do with the F you could never do in a manual.

There is no difference in shift speed between the stick and the paddles. Both are just switches. But it is not possible to take your hand off the wheel, move the stick, shift gears, and get your hand back on the wheel as quickly as you can use the paddles. So, technologically, they're identical, but practically (all things considered), the paddles are much faster.

2URGSE

I use the shift **** if I want to change gears during turns, that way I can maintain control of the steering wheel with my left hand and shift with my right hands.

If I decided to blow someone way, I use the paddle shifters and put it in sport mode if it's a car that may give me problems.

Funny, those E46 M3's don't really try anything against me in stop lights. They used to embarrass my old Honda, but those days are now over. If anything, it's the 335i guys that always seem to try to initiate something. (only to get nailed by a laser gun, since they don't run any ECM and are absolutely clueless)

ISF001

I only use the paddles and would never miss the lever.

lobuxracer

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This is contrary to every driving school I have attended and every book I've read on driving fast. BOTH hands should be on the wheel in any turn, even if you are shuffle steering. One hand does not provide sufficient feedback or control.

ISFPOWER

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that's awesome. thanks for that link. i know some companies that charge a butt load for just a little harness that does the same thing.

if im making hard left turns or u turns with moderate speed, how am i suppose to shift with the paddle? i think that's what 2urgse was talking about. i would be in a high RPM just to finish the turn , let the steering wheel straighten out then shift which i rather just use the shift ****.

PhiDeltBee

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I agree with Lobux to an extent. In the GT-R you can't shift with the lever...only the paddles. That being said, those paddles are 3 times the size and you have no problems using them no matter how hard you're turning. The paddles in the F aren't exactly user friendly while turning.

Edit: Can't shift with lever in GT-R