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10-26-07, 01:04 PM
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Like many of you... I am debating on whether trading in my IS350 for something faster and more performance oriented. I am trying to make up my mind if I would continue modifying my IS350 or wait to and get a IS-F,GTR, or M3 (would consider a c63 AMG but I hate mercedes' reliability, look, and interior is a bit meh for my taste and Mercedes is more for the older generations considering I am just a college student). I wouldn't want to continue to modifying my IS350 if I will end up trading it in in another 7-8 months. I have only had my IS350 for about five months but it was paid off in full... so no worries about all those issues and I know I would be taking a depreciation hit, but I do not care. Has anyone heavily modified a IS350 to be a competent track car?
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I was in the same situation you are in. I decided to sell my IS350 (modified, see sig below) and just get a beater G35(which I hate).
If you were to modify your IS350 to a serious track car, I believe you would be spending upwards to another 15K in mods. which would basically equal out to a new IS-F.
I know of only one person on this forum that made his into a track car, although impressive, i would say it was rather fruitless, he has since moved on and sold his IS for a 335. The IS is going to be rather hard to do any forms of FI to it. Even the supercharger proved to be a failure and very expensive.
But if your looking for a SERIOUS track car, maybe the IS-F isn't what your looking for either
If you were to modify your IS350 to a serious track car, I believe you would be spending upwards to another 15K in mods. which would basically equal out to a new IS-F.
I know of only one person on this forum that made his into a track car, although impressive, i would say it was rather fruitless, he has since moved on and sold his IS for a 335. The IS is going to be rather hard to do any forms of FI to it. Even the supercharger proved to be a failure and very expensive.
But if your looking for a SERIOUS track car, maybe the IS-F isn't what your looking for either
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Now that the price seems like it's going to be higher than expected, I'd rather have and M3/C63 sedan for the same money, or a GT-R for a little more.
Originally, when the car was supposed to be ~$50k it piqued my interest. Not so much now.
I can't see why anyone would trade in their IS350 for this. I have a 350z and looking for something with more seating that includes some sport. The only reason I was looking at the Lexus (besides the fact I always like the IS350 design), was the seemingly bargain price that was being reported.
Originally, when the car was supposed to be ~$50k it piqued my interest. Not so much now.
I can't see why anyone would trade in their IS350 for this. I have a 350z and looking for something with more seating that includes some sport. The only reason I was looking at the Lexus (besides the fact I always like the IS350 design), was the seemingly bargain price that was being reported.
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Now that the price seems like it's going to be higher than expected, I'd rather have and M3/C63 sedan for the same money, or a GT-R for a little more.
Originally, when the car was supposed to be ~$50k it piqued my interest. Not so much now.
I can't see why anyone would trade in their IS350 for this. I have a 350z and looking for something with more seating that includes some sport. The only reason I was looking at the Lexus (besides the fact I always like the IS350 design), was the seemingly bargain price that was being reported.
Originally, when the car was supposed to be ~$50k it piqued my interest. Not so much now.
I can't see why anyone would trade in their IS350 for this. I have a 350z and looking for something with more seating that includes some sport. The only reason I was looking at the Lexus (besides the fact I always like the IS350 design), was the seemingly bargain price that was being reported.
Like many of you... I am debating on whether trading in my IS350 for something faster and more performance oriented. I am trying to make up my mind if I would continue modifying my IS350 or wait to and get a IS-F,GTR, or M3 (would consider a c63 AMG but I hate mercedes' reliability, look, and interior is a bit meh for my taste and Mercedes is more for the older generations considering I am just a college student). I wouldn't want to continue to modifying my IS350 if I will end up trading it in in another 7-8 months. I have only had my IS350 for about five months but it was paid off in full... so no worries about all those issues and I know I would be taking a depreciation hit, but I do not car. Has anyone heavily modified a IS350 to be a competent track car?
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10-27-07, 01:12 PM
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I don't get why the *****ing about the price. If the performance is right up there with the competition why should you pay any less?
You are getting better service, probably more reliability..and though it might not be a consideration for most, better fuel economy. 3mpg better in the city and on the highway to be exact.
You are getting better service, probably more reliability..and though it might not be a consideration for most, better fuel economy. 3mpg better in the city and on the highway to be exact.
10-27-07, 01:54 PM
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I don't get why the *****ing about the price. If the performance is right up there with the competition why should you pay any less?
You are getting better service, probably more reliability..and though it might not be a consideration for most, better fuel economy. 3mpg better in the city and on the highway to be exact.
You are getting better service, probably more reliability..and though it might not be a consideration for most, better fuel economy. 3mpg better in the city and on the highway to be exact.
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ah ic...15 more thousand... might as well spend an extra 20-30k to get a new car... leaning more towards a IS-F or GTR... cause of higher reliability expectancy ( don't want to end up wasting my weekends at the dealership cause I am too young to get a loaner car) I will just wait to test drive them. And I wouldn't want a supra tt... I will never drive a used car...too bad they stopped making them... although there are some rumors about a hybrid sports car from toyota makign its way in a few years...
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For me, there are many more factors that I take into consideration than just performance, and I don't just buy something because it is cheaper either. At $60K base price, there are lots of options. Many people, including myself, may consider the C63 AMG or RS4 for a few grand more. I love the styling of both of these cars. The AWD of the RS4 is a big selling point and the AMG has bragging rights for power. Furthermore, it will be difficult for Lexus to win over buyers of other brands at that price point. Just my .02 opinion.
The reliability may be better for the IS-F, but that has yet to be proven, and it is the first model year. Isn't BMW, Mercedes, and Audi service pretty good? I think BMW covers all service expenses including brake rotors and pads under their regular warranty work.
The reliability may be better for the IS-F, but that has yet to be proven, and it is the first model year. Isn't BMW, Mercedes, and Audi service pretty good? I think BMW covers all service expenses including brake rotors and pads under their regular warranty work.
I don't get why the *****ing about the price. If the performance is right up there with the competition why should you pay any less?
You are getting better service, probably more reliability..and though it might not be a consideration for most, better fuel economy. 3mpg better in the city and on the highway to be exact.
You are getting better service, probably more reliability..and though it might not be a consideration for most, better fuel economy. 3mpg better in the city and on the highway to be exact.
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I don't get why the *****ing about the price. If the performance is right up there with the competition why should you pay any less?
You are getting better service, probably more reliability..and though it might not be a consideration for most, better fuel economy. 3mpg better in the city and on the highway to be exact.
You are getting better service, probably more reliability..and though it might not be a consideration for most, better fuel economy. 3mpg better in the city and on the highway to be exact.
The car's styling and numbers will surely not lure away potential M3/C63/RS4 buyers. All they had was pricing.
I am not jumping the gun though, I will wait to see the IS-F in person and drive it. It could be the best thing since sliced bread.
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For me, there are many more factors that I take into consideration than just performance, and I don't just buy something because it is cheaper either. At $60K base price, there are lots of options. Many people, including myself, may consider the C63 AMG or RS4 for a few grand more. I love the styling of both of these cars. The AWD of the RS4 is a big selling point and the AMG has bragging rights for power. Furthermore, it will be difficult for Lexus to win over buyers of other brands at that price point. Just my .02 opinion.
The reliability may be better for the IS-F, but that has yet to be proven, and it is the first model year. Isn't BMW, Mercedes, and Audi service pretty good? I think BMW covers all service expenses including brake rotors and pads under their regular warranty work.
The reliability may be better for the IS-F, but that has yet to be proven, and it is the first model year. Isn't BMW, Mercedes, and Audi service pretty good? I think BMW covers all service expenses including brake rotors and pads under their regular warranty work.
Welcome to 2007. Speed is expensive, how fast are you willing to spend?
p.s. IMO, the C63 is as over-styled as the IS-F. IMHO the only car in this segment that is aggressive yet still understated is the RS4, and they priced that more than just "a couple thousand" over the competition.
p.p.s pricing hasn't been released yet, all those 60k figures are just speculation. The NM limited Lexus is $68K. The driving school bit is about 5k with at least another 5k premium for the 'limited' status bit. I highly doubt the base MSRP of this car is going to be much more than $57,999.