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Seriously with the Audi enablers? All those scandals put together don't add up to 1/5th of the Audi scandal. Comparing any of them individually to Audi is like comparing the hill in your backyard to Mt Everest.
And yes, reliability absolutely should be questioned when suddenly 20% of your vehicles sold are illegal on the road. Not to mention are only on the road due to unprecedented, massive and intentional consumer fraud. A bit different from not correcting a questionable defect in a timely manner.
Also, the unintended acceleration thing are you old enough to remember it was Audi who first had this issue and it nearly drove them from the US in the 80's? Apparently, no one could figure out then or now that brakes are far more powerful than the engine. Not to excuse any company for too slow reactions...but for Toyota it was a shocking outlier. For Audi it's repeated fraud and unreliable products throughout their history that makes any recent uptick in short term (3 yr) reliability ratings the outlier.
Anything but Audi. Check out the M-B C-Class, the Jag XE, the BMW 3, the Lexus IS
Best friend is an Audi tech, said ECUs are failing left and right in the new A4s.
Interesting gap between what your friend sees and what I see in the A4 owner forum. Not a single owner reported such a failure. Granted, there are a few A4s with transmission problems if this is what your friend meant...
Anyone consider the Audi A4 before purchasing the IS300/350?
Any pluses/minuses?
I like the driver's console on the A4 alot -- having a color display that shows the map right in front of you is very useful.
I don't know enough else about the A4 to compare the two cars, other than the price point is similar
I had the IS, now an A4, and... I'm looking to go back to an IS again.
The A4 is a superb car and I did a comparison here, but in short, it falls short to me on the intangibles where it doesn't excite as the IS does from a styling, seating position, and feel of the drive. It all depends on what is important to you...
I debated between the A4, CLA 45 AMG, and IS. I went with the IS for "prehistoric" Lexus reliability. It has came back to bite me in the *** hard. My IS is anything but reliable. So my advise is to get the car you enjoy the most. Knowing the brand is unreliable makes it easier to swallow when the car breaks down. On that note, I suggest you throw out any notion you may have that Audi are unreliable. Despite the diesel gate and all the bad reps, none of the people I know that have S4 and A4 have had any issues with their cars.
I debated between the A4, CLA 45 AMG, and IS. I went with the IS for "prehistoric" Lexus reliability. It has came back to bite me in the *** hard. My IS is anything but reliable. So my advise is to get the car you enjoy the most. Knowing the brand is unreliable makes it easier to swallow when the car breaks down. On that note, I suggest you throw out any notion you may have that Audi are unreliable. Despite the diesel gate and all the bad reps, none of the people I know that have S4 and A4 have had any issues with their cars.
I'm getting the notion that you had a bad experience with the Lexus IS.
I had the IS, now an A4, and... I'm looking to go back to an IS again.
The A4 is a superb car and I did a comparison here, but in short, it falls short to me on the intangibles where it doesn't excite as the IS does from a styling, seating position, and feel of the drive. It all depends on what is important to you...
Good luck!
Agree 100% with CorradoMR2. I came back to the IS with a 2017 350F RWD a week ago after two new Germans, a VW GTI and a BMW. The styling, seating position, and that vault like feel is second to none. Reliability was an added bonus. If you really want a German, you'll have to go with the Turbo straight six BMW with the ZF transmission like on a 440i, that's the only thing in my mind they have over the IS, and that's if your an engine purist, which I wasn't, as everything else will be a sacrifice like the creaks and squeaks which will inevitably come with any German. I wanted a daily car that was perfect and stylish. Any other German, like a turbo 4 will be a let down. The new A4 looks didn't do it for me, the straight line dash, the clip on screen and exterior looks way domestic. You'll have to spruce it up to the hilt with 19inch wheels (giving a rough ride, not to mention their run flats) etc before it starts to look a bit nice. The IS is the only car that looks sexy on 18inch.
It could be just straight up rotten luck. But from the last few days of searching all the forums, all the issues have been experienced by others. I just so happen to have all of them. Search the rest of the Lexus lineup and you'll find a huge list of failed fuel injectors across all the models. Same with dead batteries. Very likely due to shared parts.
Agree 100% with CorradoMR2. I came back to the IS with a 2017 350F RWD a week ago after two new Germans, a VW GTI and a BMW. The styling, seating position, and that vault like feel is second to none. Reliability was an added bonus. If you really want a German, you'll have to go with the Turbo straight six BMW with the ZF transmission like on a 440i, that's the only thing in my mind they have over the IS, and that's if your an engine purist, which I wasn't, as everything else will be a sacrifice like the creaks and squeaks which will inevitably come with any German. I wanted a daily car that was perfect and stylish. Any other German, like a turbo 4 will be a let down. The new A4 looks didn't do it for me, the straight line dash, the clip on screen and exterior looks way domestic. You'll have to spruce it up to the hilt with 19inch wheels (giving a rough ride, not to mention their run flats) etc before it starts to look a bit nice. The IS is the only car that looks sexy on 18inch.
BTW, the Sport Package on the A4 does come with 19" wheels and the ride is one of the smoothest I've experienced. Certainly better than my '13 GS F Sport. Also, Audi does not equip their cars with runflats. That is BMW. And yes, the A4 does look quite nice with 19" wheels. Now, what you and I consider stylish is strictly personal. I'll go with this. (Click for full view.)
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