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Old 09-24-13, 07:40 PM
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Since I ordered RWD I need to get another set of rims and snow tires. Anyone have any suggestions? Also since I would like to do this in my garage is there any good tools for the job?

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My original IS order was RWD and I was looking into winters. But I then switched my order to AWD and I will stick with the A/S tires for this winter.

I have a hydraulic jack and stands but I just used the stock IS jack and bar which is really nicely organized in the trunk and well designed. I used it the 6-7 times I removed/put on my wheels while troubleshooting my spacers and vibration issues. One wheel at a time, no more than about 5 minutes each wheel once you get comfortable with the first one.

Tires, I was going to likely get would have been 225/45/17s winters on 17in aftermarket rims. Check out http://tirerack.com for entire packages including TPMS sensors and user/test feedback. You can get a good all-in package for around $1200.
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
My original IS order was RWD and I was looking into winters. But I then switched my order to AWD and I will stick with the A/S tires for this winter.

I have a hydraulic jack and stands but I just used the stock IS jack and bar which is really nicely organized in the trunk and well designed. I used it the 6-7 times I removed/put on my wheels while troubleshooting my spacers and vibration issues. One wheel at a time, no more than about 5 minutes each wheel once you get comfortable with the first one.

Tires, I was going to likely get would have been 225/45/17s winters on 17in aftermarket rims. Check out http://tirerack.com for entire packages including TPMS sensors and user/test feedback. You can get a good all-in package for around $1200.
Thanks for your feedback! I looked on tire rack but 3IS is not listed. I was going to buy same rims as what's currently on F Sport RWD but just put snow tires but I didn't see same brand that makes both sizes. Perhaps these sizes aren't optimal for winter. For TPMS sensors is there specific one I need to get for 3IS?

Thanks in advance.
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Yeah, it's not listed, however, the 2IS had the same bolt pattern wheel design and clearances as the 3IS for my '08 250 and '14 250. You can search for the 2IS to get rim/tire pricing ideas and call them up and ask when they'll update their site with 3IS including TPMS. I suspect they'll have it updated within the next 30-45 days to meet the upcoming winter demand for the new car. Personally, I wouldn't get 18s for cost and the fact that 255/35 rears are not ideal for snow. The thinner and higher profile the tire, the better the snow traction.
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
Yeah, it's not listed, however, the 2IS had the same bolt pattern wheel design and clearances as the 3IS for my '08 250 and '14 250. You can search for the 2IS to get rim/tire pricing ideas and call them up and ask when they'll update their site with 3IS including TPMS. I suspect they'll have it updated within the next 30-45 days to meet the upcoming winter demand for the new car. Personally, I wouldn't get 18s for cost and the fact that 255/35 rears are not ideal for snow. The thinner and higher profile the tire, the better the snow traction.
I know what you mean about thinner tires but I really like the look of the stock f sport rims and I've seen them on ebay for sale. I just couldn't find same make & model tires on tire rack for front and back. So you have to get 3IS specific TPMS? This is probably going to use up all the savings from my car deal!
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
Yeah, it's not listed, however, the 2IS had the same bolt pattern wheel design and clearances as the 3IS for my '08 250 and '14 250. You can search for the 2IS to get rim/tire pricing ideas and call them up and ask when they'll update their site with 3IS including TPMS. I suspect they'll have it updated within the next 30-45 days to meet the upcoming winter demand for the new car. Personally, I wouldn't get 18s for cost and the fact that 255/35 rears are not ideal for snow. The thinner and higher profile the tire, the better the snow traction.
For AWD F Sport, what is the wheel sizes? I assume they are same as RWD which means AWD would also be using these size in snow.
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
My original IS order was RWD and I was looking into winters. But I then switched my order to AWD and I will stick with the A/S tires for this winter.

I have a hydraulic jack and stands but I just used the stock IS jack and bar which is really nicely organized in the trunk and well designed. I used it the 6-7 times I removed/put on my wheels while troubleshooting my spacers and vibration issues. One wheel at a time, no more than about 5 minutes each wheel once you get comfortable with the first one.

Tires, I was going to likely get would have been 225/45/17s winters on 17in aftermarket rims. Check out http://tirerack.com for entire packages including TPMS sensors and user/test feedback. You can get a good all-in package for around $1200.
Will any of these fit the 3IS 350 RWD?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/17-5x114-3-Black-Polished-Wheels-Lexus-ES300-Is250-Is300-Civic-Scion-XB-TC-Rims/321211927704?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17847%26meid%3D1538780784547260766%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D8208%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D190856093571%26
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-IS-ES-GS-17-Wheels-Rims-5x114-3-17x7-45off-set-/190856093571?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Wheels&hash=item2c6fe8df83&vxp=mtr
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In Norway, if you order winter tires from the dealer, their choice is Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2.
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I ordered mine with non studded tires. Studded was default. Didn't think of what type it was. Will check tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by jhs82
I ordered mine with non studded tires. Studded was default. Didn't think of what type it was. Will check tomorrow.
I was thinking either of these.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....8XI3&tab=Sizes

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
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Originally Posted by jhs82
I ordered mine with non studded tires. Studded was default. Didn't think of what type it was. Will check tomorrow.
What does "non studded" tires mean?
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Originally Posted by SonyHome
What does "non studded" tires mean?
Winter tires that have no studs, like the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 aianir got.
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Originally Posted by jhs82
Winter tires that have no studs, like the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 aianir got.
So which one is better for Minnesota winters?
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Guy at Tire Rack stated I could put 225/40R/18 tires on F Sport rims. Is that true since F sport rims are 225/45/18 & 255/35/18?
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SonyHome, for the rims, offset between 40-45mm is fine for a 7"-7.5" width rim x 17" diameter / 114.3 x 5.

The other requirement to prevent vibration is get rims with the hub center (center bore) of 60.1 mm so the rim sits nicely/perfectly centered to the hub as opposed to relying only on the 5 lugs. Anything bigger in this measurement like your first selection above and you risk getting vibrations. If you are hard set on the first rims or similar, I would look to find a hubcentric ring that reduces the center hub from 73.1mm to 60.1mm.

As for the winter tires selection, I'd rely on the feedback, tests and factor in costs. In certain municipalities, studded tires are not permitted. These tires have small "nails" on the tread of the tire to literally bite into the surface (i.e. good for ice packed roads). I personally never required those the few times I've owned winters since non-studded or "regular" winter tires have suited me well in our Canadian winters. They are also loud and eat away at asphalt, hence why I believe they're not always legal. So if considering studded tires, you may want to check your local laws first before. If not and you're fine to spend $200 /tire, the Michelins are ranked the best studless winters as per TireRack.

Hope this helps. Good luck


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