2016 IS Line
07-31-15, 04:21 PM
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Interior Design
Driver-oriented cockpit design inspired by Lexus LFA supercar.
Dashboard is divided into two distinct zones, a display zone and an operation zone, offering drivers more comfortable, ergonomically ideal interaction with the vehicle’s control systems.
Combination of longer wheelbase and a special front seat design increases rear seat legroom by 1.6 inches
Standard 60:40 split-folding rear seats.
Five interior colors: Black, Light Gray, Parchment, Flaxen and Rioja Red (exclusive to F SPORT)
Soft touch finishes throughout, including padding on the center console sides.
Silver metallic trim analog clock with surface-emitting illumination.
07-31-15, 04:26 PM
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07-31-15, 05:37 PM
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07-31-15, 06:14 PM
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08-01-15, 05:57 AM
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Not excited.
Have Lexus call me when they offer an Ultra Luxury Package that includes semi-aniline leather.
Not willing to part with my 2010 that does have it.
Lexus standard leather is crap. And I won't buy a car with fake leather.
Guess I'll have to wait and see if they will offer it in 2017....or just buy a new ES.
Have Lexus call me when they offer an Ultra Luxury Package that includes semi-aniline leather.
Not willing to part with my 2010 that does have it.
Lexus standard leather is crap. And I won't buy a car with fake leather.
Guess I'll have to wait and see if they will offer it in 2017....or just buy a new ES.
anyhow, i'd grab a gs rather than an es if you want a more well-appointed cabin and also want engaging driving dynamics. the es has a great cabin, and the ride is plush, although it's not very engaging. the gs rides much better, although the looks are just okay, imo. as an aside, the es's mid-cycle redesign looks to be really good -- much better than the current model -- although i don't know when that face is hitting dealerships.
08-02-15, 03:40 AM
#68
If the rear differential carrier in the 2016+ IS200t is the same as with previous models, this will be good. I do wonder about the strength of the 8-speed auto they are using with the 2.0T (ie: right at or close to its design tolerances or well under them in this application).
Bringing back a mechanical limited slip option on an F-Sport handling package for this model would make things interesting, considering the competition.
Bringing back a mechanical limited slip option on an F-Sport handling package for this model would make things interesting, considering the competition.
08-02-15, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by KahnBB6
If the rear differential carrier in the 2016+ IS200t is the same as with previous models, this will be good. I do wonder about the strength of the 8-speed auto they are using with the 2.0T (ie: right at or close to its design tolerances or well under them in this application).
Bringing back a mechanical limited slip option on an F-Sport handling package for this model would make things interesting, considering the competition.
Bringing back a mechanical limited slip option on an F-Sport handling package for this model would make things interesting, considering the competition.
08-02-15, 12:39 PM
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Looked at only in terms of just the overall IS series alone, does it compare in smoothness/harshness to the original 2001-2005 IS300?
Lexus has for years avoided selling their best turbocharged engines in the US even when those engines were designed for the same vehicle bodies they sold here with naturally aspirated engines. Maybe it's the case that this 2.0T isn't their best work as compared to their earlier turbo engines but I see it as very welcome and more interesting than what they've offered from the showroom floor to date below the RC350/IS350 and RC-F/IS-F.
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08-02-15, 02:47 PM
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Just curious, do you consider it harsh compared to a BMW 2.0TT, Cadillac 2.0T, Hyundai 2.0T or Ford 2.0T? Or even compared to the older SC/GS 2JZ-GE inline-six (which to be fair is obviously a different engine type than a 2.0 four in terms of internal balancing)?
Looked at only in terms of just the overall IS series alone, does it compare in smoothness/harshness to the original 2001-2005 IS300?
Looked at only in terms of just the overall IS series alone, does it compare in smoothness/harshness to the original 2001-2005 IS300?
08-02-15, 08:19 PM
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^^ Sure. We're agreed that I6's are smoother compared to any I4 engine or V6. I just wondered how much the (perhaps very small) gap might have narrowed in terms of NVH between a 1989 engine design (1JZ/2JZ) and a brand new 2014-2015 engine design (8AR) despite their inherent internal balance differences.
A more apples to apples question that might be posed to European IS owners is how the 8AR compares in NVH to the older 3S-GE Beams naturally aspirated four cylinder that the first-gen Lexus IS/Altezza models used in Japan and Europe since that does represent one of the original traits of the IS models.
A more apples to apples question that might be posed to European IS owners is how the 8AR compares in NVH to the older 3S-GE Beams naturally aspirated four cylinder that the first-gen Lexus IS/Altezza models used in Japan and Europe since that does represent one of the original traits of the IS models.
08-02-15, 08:45 PM
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Just curious, do you consider it harsh compared to a BMW 2.0TT, Cadillac 2.0T, Hyundai 2.0T or Ford 2.0T? Or even compared to the older SC/GS 2JZ-GE inline-six (which to be fair is obviously a different engine type than a 2.0 four in terms of internal balancing)?
Looked at only in terms of just the overall IS series alone, does it compare in smoothness/harshness to the original 2001-2005 IS300?
Lexus has for years avoided selling their best turbocharged engines in the US even when those engines were designed for the same vehicle bodies they sold here with naturally aspirated engines. Maybe it's the case that this 2.0T isn't their best work as compared to their earlier turbo engines but I see it as very welcome and more interesting than what they've offered from the showroom floor to date below the RC350/IS350 and RC-F/IS-F.
Looked at only in terms of just the overall IS series alone, does it compare in smoothness/harshness to the original 2001-2005 IS300?
Lexus has for years avoided selling their best turbocharged engines in the US even when those engines were designed for the same vehicle bodies they sold here with naturally aspirated engines. Maybe it's the case that this 2.0T isn't their best work as compared to their earlier turbo engines but I see it as very welcome and more interesting than what they've offered from the showroom floor to date below the RC350/IS350 and RC-F/IS-F.
neither have i had the pleasure of driving older sc/gs lexus models nor the first-generation lexus is.
i came from bmw when i purchased my first lexus -- a second-generation is250 -- and now own a third-generation model.
08-02-15, 08:59 PM
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i mean, i totally agree that lexus didn't make this sedan available with luxurious enough packages. that said, i still went ahead and dropped my 2IS for a fully spec-ed 3IS with the luxury package even though i wasn't able to get the f-sport model with the luxury package, i chose what was ultimately more important to me. that, and the car has a number of other attributes that pushed me toward it rather than to the competition.
anyhow, i'd grab a gs rather than an es if you want a more well-appointed cabin and also want engaging driving dynamics. the es has a great cabin, and the ride is plush, although it's not very engaging. the gs rides much better, although the looks are just okay, imo. as an aside, the es's mid-cycle redesign looks to be really good -- much better than the current model -- although i don't know when that face is hitting dealerships.
anyhow, i'd grab a gs rather than an es if you want a more well-appointed cabin and also want engaging driving dynamics. the es has a great cabin, and the ride is plush, although it's not very engaging. the gs rides much better, although the looks are just okay, imo. as an aside, the es's mid-cycle redesign looks to be really good -- much better than the current model -- although i don't know when that face is hitting dealerships.
All good points, though in your post! ^^