2016 Lexus IS
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I was looking at the pcitures of the is200t, and the engine compartment looks a lot more cramped than the v6.
It also says all the models will have the same brakes, so that's nice. Also the 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, whereas the 2.5 v6 rwd is 7.2 seconds.
So marginal difference in 0-60 time, and marginal difference in fuel economy too. The stated combined fuel economy for city/hwy is 26mpg, which is amazingly what I've been doing in my 2.5 v6 awd.
So the new turbo 4 cylinder, marginally improves over the much criticized 2.5 v6.
It also says all the models will have the same brakes, so that's nice. Also the 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, whereas the 2.5 v6 rwd is 7.2 seconds.
So marginal difference in 0-60 time, and marginal difference in fuel economy too. The stated combined fuel economy for city/hwy is 26mpg, which is amazingly what I've been doing in my 2.5 v6 awd.
So the new turbo 4 cylinder, marginally improves over the much criticized 2.5 v6.
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I was looking at the pcitures of the is200t, and the engine compartment looks a lot more cramped than the v6.
It also says all the models will have the same brakes, so that's nice. Also the 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, whereas the 2.5 v6 rwd is 7.2 seconds.
So marginal difference in 0-60 time, and marginal difference in fuel economy too. The stated combined fuel economy for city/hwy is 26mpg, which is amazingly what I've been doing in my 2.5 v6 awd.
So the new turbo 4 cylinder, marginally improves over the much criticized 2.5 v6.
It also says all the models will have the same brakes, so that's nice. Also the 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, whereas the 2.5 v6 rwd is 7.2 seconds.
So marginal difference in 0-60 time, and marginal difference in fuel economy too. The stated combined fuel economy for city/hwy is 26mpg, which is amazingly what I've been doing in my 2.5 v6 awd.
So the new turbo 4 cylinder, marginally improves over the much criticized 2.5 v6.
#33
So...this is pretty much a middle finger to all the recent IS250 owners then. Great job Lexus. You've should've done this ever since the 3rd gen came out and now you do this bull*****?
I'll be even more pissed if the 2016 USDM F-Sport models come standard with fog lights.
I'll be even more pissed if the 2016 USDM F-Sport models come standard with fog lights.
#34
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Good catch. That's unfortunate. It's a great color.
Great find! Thanks for posting!
I think it's pretty straight forward. All are still available in F Sport trim. If you want the new turbo, you get RWD. This replaces the 2.5 V6 RWD version. The IS250 AWD model has been replaced with the IS300 AWD model. Both of these represent a significant power boost over the old 2.5 liter. So if you want an AWD model, you'll still get a V6, as before, just a bigger one. And of course the IS350 is still available in RWD or AWD.
I too noticed that there isn't much of a weight savings with the turbo. It'll still be a great model, though.
I don't think it's a middle finger to anyone. It's an acknowledgement that the competition is changing and Lexus needs to do the same. When you buy a new car, you should accept that there will be changes over the coming model years. It's not about you. It's about the competition, and Lexus shouldn't stop trying to improve and compete because you feel they owe it to you. Should the people who bought 2013 IS models be upset that the very next year Lexus introduced the 3rd gen IS?
I wouldn't put much faith in those numbers. On the 350, most car magazines were testing the RWD models at 5.6 seconds and the AWD at 5.3 seconds. I think their numbers are conservative. The 6.9 seconds is about what the NX200t does, with the same engine, two fewer gears (which may hurt or help), and an extra 400 pounds or so. The IS200t should outperform that.
Lexus has released 2016 Product Information Sheets for the IS
the bolded items showing are new for 2016, check out the specs!!!
http://www.toyotanewsroom.com/lexus/is/is350/releases/
the bolded items showing are new for 2016, check out the specs!!!
http://www.toyotanewsroom.com/lexus/is/is350/releases/
So this is confusing, how many base choices are there for the 2016 car?
~is200t only rwd?
~is350 awd/rwd regular?
~is300 awd with a detuned 3.5 engine? F-sport interior on this model?
So now for the awd you have to get the bigger engine car? Which seems to be a complete 180 on what they have normally done.
~is200t only rwd?
~is350 awd/rwd regular?
~is300 awd with a detuned 3.5 engine? F-sport interior on this model?
So now for the awd you have to get the bigger engine car? Which seems to be a complete 180 on what they have normally done.
So...this is pretty much a middle finger to all the recent IS250 owners then. Great job Lexus. You've should've done this ever since the 3rd gen came out and now you do this bull*****?
I'll be even more pissed if the 2016 USDM F-Sport models come standard with fog lights.
I'll be even more pissed if the 2016 USDM F-Sport models come standard with fog lights.
I was looking at the pcitures of the is200t, and the engine compartment looks a lot more cramped than the v6.
It also says all the models will have the same brakes, so that's nice. Also the 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, whereas the 2.5 v6 rwd is 7.2 seconds.
So marginal difference in 0-60 time, and marginal difference in fuel economy too. The stated combined fuel economy for city/hwy is 26mpg, which is amazingly what I've been doing in my 2.5 v6 awd.
So the new turbo 4 cylinder, marginally improves over the much criticized 2.5 v6.
It also says all the models will have the same brakes, so that's nice. Also the 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, whereas the 2.5 v6 rwd is 7.2 seconds.
So marginal difference in 0-60 time, and marginal difference in fuel economy too. The stated combined fuel economy for city/hwy is 26mpg, which is amazingly what I've been doing in my 2.5 v6 awd.
So the new turbo 4 cylinder, marginally improves over the much criticized 2.5 v6.
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That's great....
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exactly, also the writing is on the wall on retiring of the 2.5 V6. recently 250 buyers can blame themselves for not being patient enough or not doing homework prior to purchase. this is the reason i will never buy a new generation during the 1st two years of its release, you just know something good gonna come out midway through the generation. if i'm in the market but not necessary need a purchase now, i'd suggest to wait for the '17 IS, that's the year we get the MMC refreshed IS, maybe a more powerful IS350 motor.
#38
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exactly, also the writing is on the wall on retiring of the 2.5 V6. recently 250 buyers can blame themselves for not being patient enough or not doing homework prior to purchase. this is the reason i will never buy a new generation during the 1st two years of its release, you just know something good gonna come out midway through the generation. if i'm in the market but not necessary need a purchase now, i'd suggest to wait for the '17 IS, that's the year we get the MMC refreshed IS, maybe a more powerful IS350 motor.
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#39
You can do a whole bunch of things to change up the power numbers. Using regular fuel, more restrictive exhaust, modifications to the materials of the engine internals such as different cams, cylinders, and changes to the air intake
My opinion is that Lexus removed DI on the engine and lowered the required for regular fuel which is what is making the difference. As to why, I am not exaclty sure as the 2.0t does AWD duty in the NX.
The AWD feature is now electronic wheras the past AWS IS were mechanical. Not sure of facts?
I have never seen Toyota ever detune an engine, and this detune is an engine that is 11 MY years old. It really makes no sense for Lexus not to offer the 2.0t in AWD.
My opinion is that Lexus removed DI on the engine and lowered the required for regular fuel which is what is making the difference. As to why, I am not exaclty sure as the 2.0t does AWD duty in the NX.
The AWD feature is now electronic wheras the past AWS IS were mechanical. Not sure of facts?
I have never seen Toyota ever detune an engine, and this detune is an engine that is 11 MY years old. It really makes no sense for Lexus not to offer the 2.0t in AWD.
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notably no Apple Car play added either... Just put a deposit on a 2015 350 Fsport tonight, doesn't arrive at the dealership until August 20th... its the only White with black interior I can find in Florida!
#41
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right??? I've been enjoying my IS250 for the past 1.5 years now. I loved how i didnt see an IS around every corner before when i first got the car. There's always something new gonna come along
#43
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Of course its a big thing whenever there is a change. I'm just saying that you can't always be looking and waiting for that change. Just get it and enjoy it. Besides,the change to the 4 cylinder isn't consider an "upgrade" to some. Only time I'd wait. Is if there is a new model coming out within a few months and I don't need the car right away
Last edited by tea; 07-28-15 at 09:08 AM.
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