CF1LUV

I was looking at the pcitures of the is200t, and the engine compartment looks a lot more cramped than the v6.

It also says all the models will have the same brakes, so that's nice. Also the 0-60 is 6.9 seconds, whereas the 2.5 v6 rwd is 7.2 seconds.

So marginal difference in 0-60 time, and marginal difference in fuel economy too. The stated combined fuel economy for city/hwy is 26mpg, which is amazingly what I've been doing in my 2.5 v6 awd.

So the new turbo 4 cylinder, marginally improves over the much criticized 2.5 v6.

stlgrym3

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i think Lexus is copying BMW underestimating the performance number for the 2.0T. there will be more than 0.3 second difference between the 0-60 number i'll guarantee you that. the 2.5 V6 is no way getting 7.2 0-60 time i don't care what the magazine says. i have owned a '11 IS250 myself before traded it in for the IS350, 250 is slooooow, slower than the 4 banger TSX i test drove at the time. also, 2.5 V6 is not very fuel efficient at all, i'm getting the same if not better fuel economy in my IS350 now compare to the IS250.

evident

not sure how this is a middle finger. they are putting much needed updates into the base engine option.

JDR76

Good catch. That's unfortunate. It's a great color.

Great find! Thanks for posting!

I think it's pretty straight forward. All are still available in F Sport trim. If you want the new turbo, you get RWD. This replaces the 2.5 V6 RWD version. The IS250 AWD model has been replaced with the IS300 AWD model. Both of these represent a significant power boost over the old 2.5 liter. So if you want an AWD model, you'll still get a V6, as before, just a bigger one. And of course the IS350 is still available in RWD or AWD.

I too noticed that there isn't much of a weight savings with the turbo. It'll still be a great model, though.

I don't think it's a middle finger to anyone. It's an acknowledgement that the competition is changing and Lexus needs to do the same. When you buy a new car, you should accept that there will be changes over the coming model years. It's not about you. It's about the competition, and Lexus shouldn't stop trying to improve and compete because you feel they owe it to you. Should the people who bought 2013 IS models be upset that the very next year Lexus introduced the 3rd gen IS?

I wouldn't put much faith in those numbers. On the 350, most car magazines were testing the RWD models at 5.6 seconds and the AWD at 5.3 seconds. I think their numbers are conservative. The 6.9 seconds is about what the NX200t does, with the same engine, two fewer gears (which may hurt or help), and an extra 400 pounds or so. The IS200t should outperform that.

LexISguy

That's great....

LexISguy

I haven't seen any news on a second gen IS F......

stlgrym3

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exactly, also the writing is on the wall on retiring of the 2.5 V6. recently 250 buyers can blame themselves for not being patient enough or not doing homework prior to purchase. this is the reason i will never buy a new generation during the 1st two years of its release, you just know something good gonna come out midway through the generation. if i'm in the market but not necessary need a purchase now, i'd suggest to wait for the '17 IS, that's the year we get the MMC refreshed IS, maybe a more powerful IS350 motor.

My0gr81

don't buy one midway after the refresh, you ought to know something new is coming around the corner with the new generation.

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dizlex

I'm guessing the removed the DI to save cost for this "entry level" AWD car.

starbai

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notably no Apple Car play added either... Just put a deposit on a 2015 350 Fsport tonight, doesn't arrive at the dealership until August 20th... its the only White with black interior I can find in Florida!

tea

right??? I've been enjoying my IS250 for the past 1.5 years now. I loved how i didnt see an IS around every corner before when i first got the car. There's always something new gonna come along

stlgrym3

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yes, there will always something new, but how often does a model upgrade its powertrain? not that often. some models gone through two generations using the same powertrain. so it is a big thing whenever an upgrade is done underneath the hood.

tea

Of course its a big thing whenever there is a change. I'm just saying that you can't always be looking and waiting for that change. Just get it and enjoy it. Besides,the change to the 4 cylinder isn't consider an "upgrade" to some. Only time I'd wait. Is if there is a new model coming out within a few months and I don't need the car right away

dizlex

I'd be willing to bet that's a typo.