IS350's 3.5 L V6 is being replaced by a 3.0L for 2016?
05-18-15, 08:44 AM
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IS350's 3.5 L V6 is being replaced by a 3.0L for 2016?
Hello folks @ Club Lexus,
While shopping for the 2015 IS350 at the local Lexus dealership, the sales man told me that this MY will be the last for the 3.5L engine on the IS350 and it will be replaced by a 3.0L engine. MY2015 will be the last year for the current engine. But he's not sure whether its a Turbo engine. This was told to him during a training, or whatever.
But, has anyone else heard about this? I want to believe him, a 3.0L Turbo-engine, akin to BMW335, would be a great car!
I am thinking the 3.0L engine should be a Turbo charged engine because it doesn't make sense if it still a naturally aspirated V6 engine (with possibly even lesser power delivery than the current one.)
So, what do you guys think?
While shopping for the 2015 IS350 at the local Lexus dealership, the sales man told me that this MY will be the last for the 3.5L engine on the IS350 and it will be replaced by a 3.0L engine. MY2015 will be the last year for the current engine. But he's not sure whether its a Turbo engine. This was told to him during a training, or whatever.
But, has anyone else heard about this? I want to believe him, a 3.0L Turbo-engine, akin to BMW335, would be a great car!
I am thinking the 3.0L engine should be a Turbo charged engine because it doesn't make sense if it still a naturally aspirated V6 engine (with possibly even lesser power delivery than the current one.)
So, what do you guys think?
05-18-15, 09:15 AM
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I agree folks, I was surprised too! But, I sincerely hope they do.
We'll know for sure in couple of months, when Lexus announces the 2016 line-up.
We'll know for sure in couple of months, when Lexus announces the 2016 line-up.
05-18-15, 09:28 AM
#7
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Call it IS300tt
I read somewhere that the 2.5 liter engine (4GR-FSE) and the 3.5 liter engine (2GR-FSE) share many of the same components. So, I suspect that there will be inventory stockpile implications that cause Lexus to decide to update both engines at the same time.
Since the rumor of the day is that Lexus will drop a new 2.0 liter turbo in the base model IS, it is my opinion that, for financial reasons, Lexus would also make the switch on a new engine to replace the 3.5 liter at the same time, or very soon after, so that they don’t lose the benefits of parts commonality that they currently benefit from. Keeping two production lines and complete sets of engine parts has got to be enormously expensive. Switching away from the 3.5 liter at the same time as the 2.5 liter may save them many millions.
Since we know Lexus has already begun to adopt the new mantra of 0.5 liter per cylinder that other manufacturer’s have adopted, they may be able to draw from the same common parts bins that other manufacturer’s use, which will make inventory logistics even easier and cheaper for Lexus than it was. So, it’d be doubly financially beneficial for them if they were to switch all their engines quickly to this new mantra.
As far as what the IS 350’s engine will become, I can only see it becoming a new twin-turbo 3.0 liter V6. Similar to the new Mercedes Benz C400. I doubt they’ll do an inline 6 and with a V-6 I think it necessitates two turbos, right? And there’s no way they’ll downgrade to a 3.0 liter naturally aspirated engine, no way. I imagine the new IS 300tt will be a beast performance-wise.
What I don’t understand is how Lexus will maintain their reputation for reliability with all these new turbos. Get the old reliable 350’s while they last people. Glad I did.
Since the rumor of the day is that Lexus will drop a new 2.0 liter turbo in the base model IS, it is my opinion that, for financial reasons, Lexus would also make the switch on a new engine to replace the 3.5 liter at the same time, or very soon after, so that they don’t lose the benefits of parts commonality that they currently benefit from. Keeping two production lines and complete sets of engine parts has got to be enormously expensive. Switching away from the 3.5 liter at the same time as the 2.5 liter may save them many millions.
Since we know Lexus has already begun to adopt the new mantra of 0.5 liter per cylinder that other manufacturer’s have adopted, they may be able to draw from the same common parts bins that other manufacturer’s use, which will make inventory logistics even easier and cheaper for Lexus than it was. So, it’d be doubly financially beneficial for them if they were to switch all their engines quickly to this new mantra.
As far as what the IS 350’s engine will become, I can only see it becoming a new twin-turbo 3.0 liter V6. Similar to the new Mercedes Benz C400. I doubt they’ll do an inline 6 and with a V-6 I think it necessitates two turbos, right? And there’s no way they’ll downgrade to a 3.0 liter naturally aspirated engine, no way. I imagine the new IS 300tt will be a beast performance-wise.
What I don’t understand is how Lexus will maintain their reputation for reliability with all these new turbos. Get the old reliable 350’s while they last people. Glad I did.
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05-18-15, 09:48 AM
#9
I don't understand why some are trippin off the reliability with the turbo'd motors. yes there are more moving parts that are susceptible to breaking, but Toyota has had very reliable turbo'd motors in the passed. the 3s-gte, 1jz-gte and 2jz-gte were great motors and if taken care of were still reliable in the mr2's, soarers, supras and other models that had the stock engines. now i'll be honest and say I'm not up to speed on these newer Toyota motors or even if they're made by Toyota or Yamaha or whom ever, but I'd like to think they did some good testing before throwing them into this platform. NA or turbo'd motor cars can be reliable as long as the owner takes care of their cars.
yes...agree that na cars are easier and cheaper to maintain, but just wanted to point out, it's not a reason to stray away from a turbo'd ap.
yes...agree that na cars are easier and cheaper to maintain, but just wanted to point out, it's not a reason to stray away from a turbo'd ap.
05-18-15, 10:43 AM
#10
They don't usually disclose these type of information to a dealer, let alone a sale man. But it is highly possible since toyota will be using BMW's inline 6 turbo platform for their new supra.
05-18-15, 11:54 AM
#11
I don't understand why some are trippin off the reliability with the turbo'd motors. yes there are more moving parts that are susceptible to breaking, but Toyota has had very reliable turbo'd motors in the passed. the 3s-gte, 1jz-gte and 2jz-gte were great motors and if taken care of were still reliable in the mr2's, soarers, supras and other models that had the stock engines. now i'll be honest and say I'm not up to speed on these newer Toyota motors or even if they're made by Toyota or Yamaha or whom ever, but I'd like to think they did some good testing before throwing them into this platform. NA or turbo'd motor cars can be reliable as long as the owner takes care of their cars.
yes...agree that na cars are easier and cheaper to maintain, but just wanted to point out, it's not a reason to stray away from a turbo'd ap.
yes...agree that na cars are easier and cheaper to maintain, but just wanted to point out, it's not a reason to stray away from a turbo'd ap.
Lexus makes their own turbos in house. From design to raw materials to installation of the vehicle, everything is in house. This allows for quality, durability, and reliability of their turbos. They don't outsource them like the competition does.
05-18-15, 05:17 PM
#15
I've read a bunch of rumors on the internet and most of them seem to be saying that the 250 will be replaced by a 2.0 turbo, while the 350 will stay the same for 2016. Does anyone know when Lexus usually reveals their new model year lineup?
