StE823

twin scroll turbo....

Megaman

Let me clear a lot of misinformation up.

Per my Lexus factory rep, last week:

The '16 IS will come with the 2.0T engine. It is a twin-scroll design, not twin turbo.

The engine has been a huge success and will also be available in the RC, as well as the GS for 2016 models.

The 2.0T produces 235hp and 258 lbs of tq. This will be a huge improvement over the archaic 2.5 V6.

If they do not upgrade the 3.5 V6 in the 350, then Ill be gladly switching to the turbo IS, as it provides comparable performance.

Vihzel

Oh that's really great to hear. I really hope that the fuel economy numbers are pretty good with the new engine. I think the MB C-Class 300RWD is best in-class with 34/25/28 mpg. Also, wonder if there will be any other adjustments for MY16. Lexus desperately needs a new infotainment system. The current one is pretty awful compared to its competitors.

Knowing that the MY16 will get the new engine, I'll probably be deciding between the IS and the upcoming 2017 Audi A4, depending on how it looks come the Frankfurt Auto Show in September.

jellygo

When will they announce 2016 my IS???

hope to see some new improvements on is350 also...

Imprezario

Have driven an NX200t F Sport today. Not impress even in Sport+ mode, a noticeable difference in acceleration over IS250 only in 4000-5000 RPM range. The start doesn't impress at all, the sound is a typical unpleasant 4 cyl clinking. So I'm not waiting for the IS200t anymore after this test drive )

My0gr81

Nothing you stated above is new or not public domain already, either as rumors or as statements from Toyota / Lexus executives. The engine power output is published and lots of people miss the distinction between twin scroll and twin turbo. The engine is in the NX as of now, and NX sales can't keep up with demand, whether that is due to the engine is debatable, as the NX is a fine compact SUV regardless of the engine. Besides, the NX hybrid is also a huge success, and it doesn't have the turbo engine, but it is in very short supply (10% of production).

Working as a sales person at a dealership takes you just one step over an ostrich as far as Toyota / Lexus marketing plans go. The factory for the IS is in Japan and there are no such thing as "factory reps". Why would the factory need reps, they have a dedicated international distribution network already. US based dealers have access to "marketing" staff that work for Toyota and Lexus USA and any anyone else Lexus USA invites over to do the dealer circuit to pass out the kool aid. If you were a dealership owner, then maybe you would have more info as they make significant financial investments based on those future marketing plans.

What we can rely on somewhat, and that again can change once engineering and marketing are done with the details, is that Templin has publicly stated that the 2.0l twin scroll turbo will be in the USDM IS and that they have already announced the same engine for the ES in the Chinese market. Conceivably that means it could make it to the USDM ES as well.

My0gr81

I have the NX F-Sport and I agree, the engine is slightly under powered for that SUV. It should be fine in the IS that is 400 - 450 lbs lighter. The noise is something else, but that is something that is also the bane of the Audi's and the BMW's that also have the 4cyl engines, but they do a better job of managing it.

Diesel350

There were rumors that the V6 engine was being revised. Tail lights were being revised also.

beyno

Any one else agree if your looking to buy, it might be worth waiting for the MY16 announcement?
Hopefully we know in August/September

cp2

iTrader: (1)

saw your post in the other thread. if you have to wait cause the car you want is back ordered and if you're not in a rush, 4-5 months will fly by and you will have the option of getting a MY 16. and if there's no updates you like, then you can get a better deal on a '15, if your dealer is still getting them at that time.

beyno

Totally agree with you, I think this would apply to anyone in the market right now...
Patience might be the key here

condosales

Turbos are great...till they go and you have to replace it (or them).

This is part of the reason I bought my 2015 IS 350 FSport over a German car.

I'll pass on the turbo!