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Old 02-12-14, 09:21 PM   #1
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So another snow storm is hitting the northeast coast, anywhere from 8-12 inches.I reside In the DC metro area. This evening my wife and I decided to head to the grocery store even though there was only an inch on the ground. On our way home we hit one hill and I was surprised how bad the traction was, or actually lack there of. We were sliding all over and were barely moving a couple times. Once we finally got to our townhouse, I could barely make it pass our driveway curb and in to my small incline driveway. Once actually on the driveway, had to stop to let my wife out the car (garage is only big enough for one side to open the door once parked). Then I proceeded to pull the the car in the garage but couldn't move!!!! Had to put some salt on the ground to gain some traction and get moving.

Wondering if anyone in the area is having similar bad experiences or if other RWD owners in general has had the same issues? Maybe I should have gotten the AWD instead, but I figure there would be only a week or two most each yr of snow. The other 50 weeks would be full of decent weather to drive in, plus I didn't want to give up the 8speed auto. But man today was the first time I really regretted getting the RWD, instead of AWD.

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Old 02-12-14, 09:23 PM   #2
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Is that with the stock summer tires or something else?
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One question will make this thread relevant or not : winter tires?
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Get yourself Michelin X-Ice Xi3s and you will be good for the winter. I have these and no issues what so ever so far but I haven't had to drive through deep snow yet.
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I'm still running stock summers. Seriously considering getting some blizzaks but I don't know if that will even make a difference or not considering the RWD drivetrain? If anyone has experience with the winter tires let me know.
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As stated I have Micheline X-Ice Xi3 winter tires and these are great. They are one of the best rated winter tires on tirerack.com. Performs well in all road conditions with great comfort and low noise.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...=true&filter=y
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Looking into those tires now. What size did you get Sony? I see they have the fronts, 225/40/18, but no rears available at 255/35/18 (factory specs).

Maybe I should do 225/50/18 fronts and 255/45/18 rears? Wonder if the extra 10mm on the sidewall will create rubbing issues?
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Old 02-12-14, 10:42 PM   #8
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lol you can't blame the car... you're driving with summer tires which are pretty much useless below 40F... get all seasons or winters and you'll see great improvement.
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LOL I live in the NY Metro Area and my daily came with P-Zero summers.

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RWD will never be as good as AWD for traction, but Winter tires (blizzaks are my vote) will go a LONG way. However, if it's really only a couple weeks a year, it's not worth spending the money on winter tires for that. Just know your limitations and avoid going out on those few days...who wants to go out in the cold anyways
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After reading your story, you and your wife should feel lucky that you guys made it home safely. I would absolutely never drive on summer tires even if there was just 1 cm of snow on the road. The compound used in summer tires are too soft and the rubber hardens up below 40F. Combine this with snow and you have a recipe for disaster. Since you guys only see 1 or 2 days of snow throughout the entire year, I would recommend getting a set of all season tires at least to safely get around during winter. You'll notice the difference in grip immediately with all seasons and even greater traction and shorter stopping distance with winter tires. AWD surely provides better grip during acceleration but a vehicle equipped with summer tires will stop the same regardless if its AWD, RWD, FWD, etc. Please drive safely!
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After reading your story, you and your wife should feel lucky that you guys made it home safely. I would absolutely never drive on summer tires even if there was just 1 cm of snow on the road. The compound used in summer tires are too soft and the rubber hardens up below 40F. Combine this with snow and you have a recipe for disaster. Since you guys only see 1 or 2 days of snow throughout the entire year, I would recommend getting a set of all season tires at least to safely get around during winter. You'll notice the difference in grip immediately with all seasons and even greater traction and shorter stopping distance with winter tires. AWD surely provides better grip during acceleration but a vehicle equipped with summer tires will stop the same regardless if its AWD, RWD, FWD, etc. Please drive safely!
yeah your tire choice is going to play a HUGE factor in that whole scenario. summer tires in snowy conditions, youre basically ice skating at that point
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I went with 235/40/18 on all four corners with my factory F-Sport rims (RWD) - fits perfect imo.
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dont blame the drivetrain, people change to snow tires in the winter for a reason
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So another snow storm is hitting the northeast coast, anywhere from 8-12 inches.I reside In the DC metro area. This evening my wife and I decided to head to the grocery store even though there was only an inch on the ground. On our way home we hit one hill and I was surprised how bad the traction was, or actually lack there of. We were sliding all over and were barely moving a couple times. Once we finally got to our townhouse, I could barely make it pass our driveway curb and in to my small incline driveway. Once actually on the driveway, had to stop to let my wife out the car (garage is only big enough for one side to open the door once parked). Then I proceeded to pull the the car in the garage but couldn't move!!!! Had to put some salt on the ground to gain some traction and get moving.

Wondering if anyone in the area is having similar bad experiences or if other RWD owners in general has had the same issues? Maybe I should have gotten the AWD instead, but I figure there would be only a week or two most each yr of snow. The other 50 weeks would be full of decent weather to drive in, plus I didn't want to give up the 8speed auto. But man today was the first time I really regretted getting the RWD, instead of AWD.
Cars aren't bad in snow, tires are bad in snow (in this case, summer tires in winter). The main reason AWD does anything, is because they typically come with all-season tires, which are better but not great.

I've been caught in the slightest bit of snow while on summers and it's very bad. Do yourself a favor and invest in winter tires, and if possible, a cheap set of wheels to mount them once you've hit consistent 40 F and below.

I'm in neighboring MD and I've been driving my F year round with proper tires and I've had no problems related to traction. Tires are the ONLY part of the car touching the road, don't overlook them.
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