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#137
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"Ultra White Metallic?" Typo?
#138
Turbo? No thanks - I don't want one in a daily driver. I know modern ones have gotten better, but they add complexity to an engine and more heat. One of the reasons I like the current V6s is they've got the bugs worked out of them (remember carbon build up in the first few years of the 2.5 in the 2IS, etc).
I would want to give a new turbo engine 4-5 years to prove itself before I would really trust it. And even then I would still prefer the smooth, quiet, linear power curve of a V6.
If you look at the IS competitors like the BMW 320i you notice a few things: real world fuel economy noted by reviewers and power of the 4-banger turbo is about same as the 2.5 liter in the 250, but there's more engine noise and vibration. blech.
I would want to give a new turbo engine 4-5 years to prove itself before I would really trust it. And even then I would still prefer the smooth, quiet, linear power curve of a V6.
If you look at the IS competitors like the BMW 320i you notice a few things: real world fuel economy noted by reviewers and power of the 4-banger turbo is about same as the 2.5 liter in the 250, but there's more engine noise and vibration. blech.
#139
+1. Cannot believe that wasn't added into the changes for 2015. I thought memory seats would have been a given.
So Lexus still expect people to pay nearly $50K for a car that does not include something basic like memory seats, which cars 1/2 the cost of it have standard!
If anything, why not give the buyer the OPTION to add memory seats? Not harm, no foul there but Lexus obviously don't care about it.
Heck, I personally would have taken memory seats over ventilation seats (and this is coming from someone who lives in the blistering Texas heat)!
~ Im2z2p345
So Lexus still expect people to pay nearly $50K for a car that does not include something basic like memory seats, which cars 1/2 the cost of it have standard!
If anything, why not give the buyer the OPTION to add memory seats? Not harm, no foul there but Lexus obviously don't care about it.
Heck, I personally would have taken memory seats over ventilation seats (and this is coming from someone who lives in the blistering Texas heat)!
~ Im2z2p345
"You must be one of the few people adamant about it because we have had complaints that it was useless to have it there. It's paired with your key so everything will adjust as long as you take your key. I wouldn't harp on it as much as you've done, it will be an obsolete feature in the next 2-3 years, watch. Then you'll be complaining why did we include it there and it looks so tacky and outdated, etc."
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#141
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Why would people suddenly stop buying it now? The 2014 saw some major sales volumes, so they do indeed expect that people will continue to purchase a 50k car where memory seats are not available with all packages.
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#143
I think you might have misunderstood what I meant. I do understand a modder can put fog lights there if they want, but the front lip of the F-Sport is supposedly designed that way to increase airflow to the brakes, so I don't think Lexus would be able to simply cram lights in the slots without changing some other design aspect of the car to cool the brakes. Whether or not modders who install their won will suffer issues with brakes from impeding ventilation will probably depend on how they drive their cars, and other factors.
Last edited by MGB1120; 06-27-14 at 06:36 PM.
#144
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I think you might have misunderstood what I meant. I do understand a modder can put fog lights there if they want, but the front lip of the F-Sport is supposedly designed that way to increase airflow to the brakes, so I don't think Lexus would be able to simply cram lights in the slots without changing some other design aspect of the car to cool the brakes. Whether or not modders who install their won will suffer issues with brakes from impeding ventilation will probably depend on how they drive their cars, and other factors.
#145
Are they warm climate regions and if so are there other changes to the vehicle in those regions like different rotors? I don't recall the source but I'm pretty sure I read about the openings for brake ventilation in official Lexus literature.
Last edited by dasbuch; 06-27-14 at 06:42 PM.
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#147
LED fog lamps
Siri Eyes Free technology from Apple; compatible with iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 models
Heated/ventilated front seats added to F SPORT (F SPORT AWD also gets heated steering wheel)
Revised interior trim, including piano black on window switches and instrument panel
New Stratus Gray interior replaces Light Gray
Backup monitor adds dynamic grid lines to aid parking maneuvers
Available Lexus Enform Remote
#148
Oh my bad! So what essentially are you getting better with a 2015? These options?
LED fog lamps
Siri Eyes Free technology from Apple; compatible with iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 models
Heated/ventilated front seats added to F SPORT (F SPORT AWD also gets heated steering wheel)
Revised interior trim, including piano black on window switches and instrument panel
New Stratus Gray interior replaces Light Gray
Backup monitor adds dynamic grid lines to aid parking maneuvers
Available Lexus Enform Remote
LED fog lamps
Siri Eyes Free technology from Apple; compatible with iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 models
Heated/ventilated front seats added to F SPORT (F SPORT AWD also gets heated steering wheel)
Revised interior trim, including piano black on window switches and instrument panel
New Stratus Gray interior replaces Light Gray
Backup monitor adds dynamic grid lines to aid parking maneuvers
Available Lexus Enform Remote
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#150
As I said though, I wouldn't take a turbo if they took 4 grand off the price as incentive.