can I buy and drive home a 2014 IS today, 6/28/2013?
06-30-13, 08:00 AM
#33
I calculated and with tax and 4-year financing cost, I'm looking to spend at total of $56K for a 350 F.
Thoughts?
06-30-13, 02:53 PM
#35
Yes, thats what I mean. Unless your paying full cash, your deal on the MSRP doesnt gurantee you save any money. The dealer can hike up lease prices and finance cost.
I calculated and with tax and 4-year financing cost, I'm looking to spend at total of $56K for a 350 F.
Thoughts?
I calculated and with tax and 4-year financing cost, I'm looking to spend at total of $56K for a 350 F.
Thoughts?
As far as a lease, if they play with the money factor then they will not have a guaranteed customer back in short time for another vehicle.
I do not think your calculations are out of line.
06-30-13, 09:37 PM
#36
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Okay! What a busy day. I was communicating with about 5 different dealers. 2 came through with competitive offers. Keyes and Jim Falk here in LA said they wouldn't budge from sticker. I went with David Truong at Longo Lexus because in each email and phone call exchange he was a perfect gentleman and he was straight forward and honest with me about everything. It was the mellowest and more pleasant car buying experience I've ever had. I now own an IS350 F-sport with Levinson Nebula Grey/Red.
I've had the highly regarded ELS system on Acura's and had the Lexicon in the Genesis I just sold. The Levinson blows then both away. I don't know if its the cabin or what but it sounds so fine. The nav is slow but not painstakingly so. The mouse is fine once you get used to how little movement it takes.
Okay so we can't get certain features on the F-sport -- here are my thoughts since I had all of those features and more on the Genesis.
Adaptive cruise control -- nice but I seldom used it since it applies the brakes suddenly and dramatically even with car distance at its greatest.
Rain sensing wipers -- not a great loss -- on the Genny they'd wipe out of the blue on sunny days sometimes (spray from another car).
LDWS - never used it. Acura is supposed to have a cool evolvement on that theme but that car cost much more.
Memory seats -- once the seat is in place in this car you're set. The tilt steering wheel is memory.
Don't even notice the seats are Nuluxe.
Electronic brake -- very nice on the Genny -- will miss that
Hill assist -- kind of good to have in LA but didn't sue it much
Front and rear object sensors -- will miss those they help squeeze through tight spaces
Folding mirrors -- used those a lot on the Genny
Mirrors that tilt downward in reverse so I don't hit a curb while parking -- I'm surprised this car doesn't do that -- will the feature
But all in all -- missing any and/or all of the features above is not a deal breaker. This car is cool.
Apologize for typos -- very tired.
I've had the highly regarded ELS system on Acura's and had the Lexicon in the Genesis I just sold. The Levinson blows then both away. I don't know if its the cabin or what but it sounds so fine. The nav is slow but not painstakingly so. The mouse is fine once you get used to how little movement it takes.
Okay so we can't get certain features on the F-sport -- here are my thoughts since I had all of those features and more on the Genesis.
Adaptive cruise control -- nice but I seldom used it since it applies the brakes suddenly and dramatically even with car distance at its greatest.
Rain sensing wipers -- not a great loss -- on the Genny they'd wipe out of the blue on sunny days sometimes (spray from another car).
LDWS - never used it. Acura is supposed to have a cool evolvement on that theme but that car cost much more.
Memory seats -- once the seat is in place in this car you're set. The tilt steering wheel is memory.
Don't even notice the seats are Nuluxe.
Electronic brake -- very nice on the Genny -- will miss that
Hill assist -- kind of good to have in LA but didn't sue it much
Front and rear object sensors -- will miss those they help squeeze through tight spaces
Folding mirrors -- used those a lot on the Genny
Mirrors that tilt downward in reverse so I don't hit a curb while parking -- I'm surprised this car doesn't do that -- will the feature
But all in all -- missing any and/or all of the features above is not a deal breaker. This car is cool.
Apologize for typos -- very tired.
07-01-13, 03:10 AM
#38
i think it has hill assists, it is AT anyway? As to tilting mirrors, trying putting the mirror adjuster to the left or right mirror, thats how it tilts in mine, in the middle position it doesnt tilt
07-01-13, 07:41 AM
#39
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Thank you all. Just to put things in perspective -- Genesis gave me all of the above + air cooled seats that worked wonderfully -- but it couldn't give me or anyone else a reliable air conditioner. It struggled with temps above 90. It was really bad -- where it only blew cold air when I was driving.
The Acura TL SH-AWD gave me a world class driving experience -- it handled great. But it couldn't give me a somewhat sane ride on city streets and it couldn't give me sound proofing.
To me the IS combines the best of both cars -- luxury + driving thrills.
The Acura TL SH-AWD gave me a world class driving experience -- it handled great. But it couldn't give me a somewhat sane ride on city streets and it couldn't give me sound proofing.
To me the IS combines the best of both cars -- luxury + driving thrills.
07-01-13, 08:04 AM
#40
Thank you all. Just to put things in perspective -- Genesis gave me all of the above + air cooled seats that worked wonderfully -- but it couldn't give me or anyone else a reliable air conditioner. It struggled with temps above 90. It was really bad -- where it only blew cold air when I was driving.
The Acura TL SH-AWD gave me a world class driving experience -- it handled great. But it couldn't give me a somewhat sane ride on city streets and it couldn't give me sound proofing.
To me the IS combines the best of both cars -- luxury + driving thrills.
The Acura TL SH-AWD gave me a world class driving experience -- it handled great. But it couldn't give me a somewhat sane ride on city streets and it couldn't give me sound proofing.
To me the IS combines the best of both cars -- luxury + driving thrills.
07-01-13, 08:16 AM
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Okay! What a busy day. I was communicating with about 5 different dealers. 2 came through with competitive offers. Keyes and Jim Falk here in LA said they wouldn't budge from sticker. I went with David Truong at Longo Lexus because in each email and phone call exchange he was a perfect gentleman and he was straight forward and honest with me about everything. It was the mellowest and more pleasant car buying experience I've ever had. I now own an IS350 F-sport with Levinson Nebula Grey/Red.
I've had the highly regarded ELS system on Acura's and had the Lexicon in the Genesis I just sold. The Levinson blows then both away. I don't know if its the cabin or what but it sounds so fine. The nav is slow but not painstakingly so. The mouse is fine once you get used to how little movement it takes.
Okay so we can't get certain features on the F-sport -- here are my thoughts since I had all of those features and more on the Genesis.
Adaptive cruise control -- nice but I seldom used it since it applies the brakes suddenly and dramatically even with car distance at its greatest.
Rain sensing wipers -- not a great loss -- on the Genny they'd wipe out of the blue on sunny days sometimes (spray from another car).
LDWS - never used it. Acura is supposed to have a cool evolvement on that theme but that car cost much more.
Memory seats -- once the seat is in place in this car you're set. The tilt steering wheel is memory.
Don't even notice the seats are Nuluxe.
Electronic brake -- very nice on the Genny -- will miss that
Hill assist -- kind of good to have in LA but didn't sue it much
Front and rear object sensors -- will miss those they help squeeze through tight spaces
Folding mirrors -- used those a lot on the Genny
Mirrors that tilt downward in reverse so I don't hit a curb while parking -- I'm surprised this car doesn't do that -- will the feature
But all in all -- missing any and/or all of the features above is not a deal breaker. This car is cool.
Apologize for typos -- very tired.
I've had the highly regarded ELS system on Acura's and had the Lexicon in the Genesis I just sold. The Levinson blows then both away. I don't know if its the cabin or what but it sounds so fine. The nav is slow but not painstakingly so. The mouse is fine once you get used to how little movement it takes.
Okay so we can't get certain features on the F-sport -- here are my thoughts since I had all of those features and more on the Genesis.
Adaptive cruise control -- nice but I seldom used it since it applies the brakes suddenly and dramatically even with car distance at its greatest.
Rain sensing wipers -- not a great loss -- on the Genny they'd wipe out of the blue on sunny days sometimes (spray from another car).
LDWS - never used it. Acura is supposed to have a cool evolvement on that theme but that car cost much more.
Memory seats -- once the seat is in place in this car you're set. The tilt steering wheel is memory.
Don't even notice the seats are Nuluxe.
Electronic brake -- very nice on the Genny -- will miss that
Hill assist -- kind of good to have in LA but didn't sue it much
Front and rear object sensors -- will miss those they help squeeze through tight spaces
Folding mirrors -- used those a lot on the Genny
Mirrors that tilt downward in reverse so I don't hit a curb while parking -- I'm surprised this car doesn't do that -- will the feature
But all in all -- missing any and/or all of the features above is not a deal breaker. This car is cool.
Apologize for typos -- very tired.
07-01-13, 08:20 AM
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Were you able to drive a car off the lot, or did you have to order? Your configuration is likely what I am looking to get, but I am torn whether to spend the extra for ML. Since it is bundled with the nav (which i don't much care about), it is an extra $3.2k or so, and I'm wondering if it is worth it. Did you compare the ML to the standard Lexus audio system?
However, 3.2k many would say you can get a nice aftermarket setup that will blow the ML away but I dont like my car smelling like MDF, glue, dust, ETC for months.
07-01-13, 08:26 AM
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Were you able to drive a car off the lot, or did you have to order? Your configuration is likely what I am looking to get, but I am torn whether to spend the extra for ML. Since it is bundled with the nav (which i don't much care about), it is an extra $3.2k or so, and I'm wondering if it is worth it. Did you compare the ML to the standard Lexus audio system?
I didn't compare ML to the Lexus radio but I can tell you imo it is superior to ELS + Lexicon which is very high end -- supposedly the only other car that has it is the Bentley.