magne

I would actually assume that the nuluxe fake leather would be the material that is most durable when it comes to wear.
Real leather scratches pretty easy.
Alcantara\suede becomes ugly very quick if it is exposed to heavy wear.
Don't know about the cloth option in the f-sport, but it felt very durable and solid.

spwolf

toyota/lexus in europe have new product to protect non-leather surfaces and paint:

its warrantied for 5yrs...

magne

Can't say that the commersial did convince me at all.

If this product does such huge wonders for the whole car, how come no one in the detailer community uses it? There are other products that "seals" both paint and textiles to a degree. But if you lose an ice cream on your seat, there will be a stain. And you'll probaly need a good washing of the seat to remove the stain.
Not just wipe it away like the commersial says.

Things that seem to good to be true...

modthispny

i don't think there is any justification for not offering real leather, make it optional like bmw. standard is nuluxe, and premium package offers leather/cooled seats.

this car(f-sport) is made to compete against the 335i m kit right? so you need to offer comparable options.

or maybe they did that so it wouldn't compete against GS sales since the IS has grown this newest gen.

spwolf

Lexus gives you warranty that nobody else will, its pretty simple when it comes to that... apparently it is some kind of glass-like compound that bounds to the textile and paint, so nothing can really stick to it anymore.

Hey, I am not selling it, I dont care if you like it or not, it is something that I plant to use on my next car. They started offering it last year, and I will probably put it on my car since it is official Toyota product with 5yr warranty... My detailer gives me whatyouseeiswhatyouget warranty :-)

unc879wins

If I heard the commercial correctly, the 5 year warranty is on the "exterior" treated surfaces. Anyone know an approximate cost of this treatment?

NoLFA4U

Simoniz is the same thing, and provides a lifetime warranty on new Lexus cars.

dseag2

Not to hijack the thread, but that isn't typical of Audi either. I was on my second Audi and had a '10 S5 Cab that I wanted to trade for an '11 S5 Cab. The GM that I bought the '10 S5 from was always responsive and worked with me throughout the ordering/buying process. The GM who replaced him never responded to my e-mails even when I was already dead set on trading for a new one with the same dealership. I sent an e-mail to the dealership letting them know I just wanted to order a new ($67k) car. No response. I ended up going to another dealership. I think your friend was very fortunate.

magne

It is not that I don't like the product, I just don't believe in it
It seems to good to be true. And probably is.
To me this looks just like a good sealer or wax, but I doubt the result will last for more than a few months. If the paint behave like that for 5 years, it would be a miracle product for all us detailers out there, and quickly put us out of work
Many other companies offers so called treatments that is supposed to make the paint of the car indestructeble and make all dirt not stick.
In europe "Ditec" is the biggest thing. A german company that "teflon treats" the paintwork.
They say the paint won't scratch or be damaged.
One winter with a black car through the carwash about five times, combined with salt and all other nasty things, and even a treated car is so full of swirls it looks like you've washed it with grid paper.

A lot of other products thats seals both seats and paint are avalible.
My best experiences are with nano lotus for fabric, and with rain-x for glass and swissvax for paint.
But all of them only last for 2-3 months, and then you have to re treat the surface for a good result, or else the effect dissapears.

Do you or anyone else know exactly what the 5 year warranty toyota gives actually covers?
If it guarantees that the car won't scratch, I'm very surtain it won't be offered in countries with harsh winter climate, or countries with extreme temperatures and sun, since both these factores damages the paint a lot over time.

IntegresS

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From what I can see, Park Assist is an option, however, conflicts with the FSport package.

Power Rear Sun Shade appears to be an available option, even when equipped with Fsport package.

bitkahuna

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looks distinctly like, vinyl.

Joeb427

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Dealer perk...

spwolf

its not dealer, it is official Toyota product, warrantied by Toyota Europe, just like your car. Which makes all the difference in the world.

Hoovey689

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You can't get leather on the F-Sport. It's only NuLuxe 3 (synthetic leather with real bits mixed in). Thought we covered this already? hah



edit* reason for this was that it "breaths better" and is "lighter" than leather (was just in Vegas at a dealers meeting regarding the 3IS). I can't have my cake and I can't eat it. Sadly did you know you can get leather on the CT F-Sport

Lexus you better check yourself.. SMH

spwolf

its due to performance!!!

:-)

btw, anything else new about IS that we didnt know?