aQuarius26

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Does anyone have ANY idea when dealerships (if they have not already) will be getting in the brochures for the new IS?

flipside909

Usually not until right after vehicle launch...which would mean sometime in June or July 2013.

spwolf

so we can debunk the info of it getting heavier... it is not really exact science, since variation in Euro spec weight is due to equipment, but base can be lighter than before, and it is actually lighter than the heaviest current Euro spec with F-Sport model, as Euro F-Sports were already heavier than normal IS250's.

flipside909

65.7 MPG Combined for the IS 300h!? Wow.

cindytoo

So this is much smaller than the ES300h then. I guess both overall and internally. And less power. It's really cute though....

spwolf

in US EPA, this would be 40-42 MPG, not quite sure exactly... it is about the same mpg as Prius v gets in Europe.

Of course it has 20hp more and RWD and heavier car.

Pawel062

no manual option kills it for me. if there was a 3.5 manual I would pick this up as soon as it is out. I hope they do bring the new 2.0t they are working on to it and give us a manual option.

LSIII

I would wager money that a manual will never be available on the 3IS. The manual transmission is heading towards extinction. BMW, Porsche, and others have said they will or already have started to phase out manual transmissions.

LexFather

There is no Manuel in the LFA, Ferraris and the new Porsche GT3 did you expect one in a Lexus? Lexus manuals stink anyway lol

flipside909

Yeah we all wish for a manual IS 350. The last of the 6 MT variants came in the IS 250 (rare) and IS 200d (Europe). Now that IS 300h w/CVT replaces the IS 200d 6MT, the manual transmission Lexus days are about to become a thing of the past.

spwolf

200d and 220d :-).

UK was only market that took out 220d in Europe... "unfortunately" everyone looks at UK market as "Europe" but the truth is that their configurations and model availability for all of TMC is very different from rest of the Europe.

flipside909

The IS 200d replaced the IS 220d for all of Lexus Europe for Model year 2011. The 2AD-FHV 2.2L 4cyl Diesel HP output dropped from 170hp (220d) to 150hp (200d) for better fuel economy.





I took these pics of the IS 200d at the 2010 Paris Motor Show.

GS3Tek

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Wow!

and what was lexus lame *** reason for not bringing the 300h over here???

chris07is

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may i a ask this dumb question, does anybody know if the 3rd gen comes with remote key start?

spwolf

sorry, but this is not true... most of europe had both 200d and 220d. UK dropped the IS 220d, which is what English media reports in English as what happens in Lexus Europe, but in general, TM UK has very different engine and model selection than rest of TMME.

IS200d is not the same engine as in IS220d... It is something that was reported by UK media but it is simply not true. Its 2AD-FTV. Output did not drop as it is not the same engine. 2AD-FHV had 177hp too. There were plenty of differences, main one being larger turbo and DCAT emissions system, as well as higher pressure fuel pump/injectors... it gave it more power but also made it sluggish in lower revs as well, and consumption was much higher due to de-NOx system and 5th injector. Not to mention that it used different gearbox as well. Overall, 2AD-FTV is much better engine, but less power.