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Old 01-15-13, 08:47 PM   #61
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^^ lol nice job hoovey. It will probably be the toned down PCS that wont actually brake for you but will prime brake assist. It will not stop the car on its own accord
PCS doesn't do that now. So I wouldn't exactly call it "toned" down. But if I were to speculate, it will probably be EXACTLY the same as todays PCS.
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Old 01-15-13, 09:03 PM   #62
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PCS doesn't do that now. So I wouldn't exactly call it "toned" down. But if I were to speculate, it will probably be EXACTLY the same as todays PCS.
yeah but the PCS in the LS offer the full braking. they just offer the toned down version on other models including the IS
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Old 01-16-13, 06:36 PM   #63
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I'm planning on it very soon. Looking to let go of my lease to someone.. Already put it on swapalease.... Dying for that is350 F-Sport!
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Old 01-17-13, 01:15 PM   #64
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I have mixed feelings about this, the design is aggressive, however, not a coherent as the 2nd. I will only consider the 3rd G if Lexus comes out with the coupe version, even then, I will have to see in person.
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Old 01-17-13, 02:19 PM   #65
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^^ lol nice job hoovey. It will probably be the toned down PCS that wont actually brake for you but will prime brake assist. It will not stop the car on its own accord
why?

not like I care, it is too expensive for me.
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Old 01-17-13, 05:51 PM   #66
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I'm planning on it very soon. Looking to let go of my lease to someone.. Already put it on swapalease.... Dying for that is350 F-Sport!
I'd let the dealer see if he can trade you out of it.
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Old 01-17-13, 08:05 PM   #67
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As far as them increasing the POWER, I highly doubt it because the IS-F exists....204hp, 306hp, 400+hp, means that each sedan is pretty marketable vs. 254hp, 356hp, 400+hp, a lot would settle for the 250 or even the 350 and wouldn't think twice about the F unless you have the money to BLOW....JUST my opinion, but it kind of makes sense for them not to add power if they want to keep your interest in the IS-F...
I have a simple solution for this... UP the power of the IS-F Keeping the same power envelope is going to cost sales on its own account. Particularly from 350 owners like myself. I've officially ruled a 3IS out of my new vehicle options. I have lots of reasons, but the keeping the same power output is a big one.
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I have a simple solution for this... UP the power of the IS-F Keeping the same power envelope is going to cost sales on its own account. Particularly from 350 owners like myself. I've officially ruled a 3IS out of my new vehicle options. I have lots of reasons, but the keeping the same power output is a big one.
I doubt Ill be getting the 350 as well; however, I'm still interested in the IS-F not F-Sport....
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I don't understand the preoccupation with the horsepower number. If the car delivers good performance and is an upgrade in that department, who cares what the HP figure is?

At some point theres a point of diminishing return...
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I don't understand the preoccupation with the horsepower number. If the car delivers good performance and is an upgrade in that department, who cares what the HP figure is?

At some point theres a point of diminishing return...
It's a 7 year old power plant going in a bigger car. I doubt they're using any exotic materials if the cheap looking interior is any indication, which means it has undoubtedly gained weight. Not that hard to extrapolate that performance isn't going to be something to write home about.
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It's a 7 year old power plant going in a bigger car. I doubt they're using any exotic materials if the cheap looking interior is any indication, which means it has undoubtedly gained weight. Not that hard to extrapolate that performance isn't going to be something to write home about.
Even though the engine at its core is the same, things do change. THe 8 speed is supposed to create a faster 0-60 time. Also, just like the ES350 which made do with a carry over, it gained 1-2 mpg combined, and Im sure the IS will as well. Little tweaks here and there make a difference
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Even though the engine at its core is the same, things do change. THe 8 speed is supposed to create a faster 0-60 time. Also, just like the ES350 which made do with a carry over, it gained 1-2 mpg combined, and Im sure the IS will as well. Little tweaks here and there make a difference
Those are not significant enough changes. A new generation should be head and shoulders above the older one, not minor tweak just to get it even with a 7 year old, outgoing car. The additional ratios will likely be negated by the additional weight the engine has to cope with. If it happens to bring a performance improvement with it, it will be exceptionally minor and hardly worth ~$45k. IMO
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We dont know for sure if it will in fact be heavier. Weight saving techniques are being implemented Im sure. The GS is lightest in its class. The ES, 50 pounds lighter than the 2012 model.
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If all you care about is power Ramon, buy a Mustang.

You talk like engine performance is the only reason someone buys an IS. Obviously not, since the 250 sells so much better than the 350.

Bear in mind that same power plant is in the GS, a larger heavier car than the new IS and delivers great performance without the 8 speed.

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If all you care about is power Ramon, buy a Mustang.

You talk like engine performance is the only reason someone buys an IS. Obviously not, since the 250 sells so much better than the 350.

Bear in mind that same power plant is in the GS, a larger heavier car than the new IS and delivers great performance without the 8 speed.
If all I cared about was power, I would buy a mustang. I'm sorry if it offends you that someone criticizes your precious 3IS, i just had higher hopes for this car than it's going to deliver. "Great performance" is relative. I don't think it's all that great.

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