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Acura TL SH-AWD vs IS-350 AWD

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Old 02-02-13, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueprint
IS getting 0-60 in 4.9 and 5.1 seconds. Fastest I've seen for TL SHAWD is 5.2. Drivers race but IS is clearly the faster car..
How are you getting these numbers, Lexus website
http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/detai...fications.html

lists 0-60 5.6sec for IS350-RWD and 5.7sec for IS350-AWD.

Well, I waiting for 2014 to come out. Looks nice in pictures.
Old 02-02-13, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tolian21
How are you getting these numbers, Lexus website
http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/detai...fications.html

lists 0-60 5.6sec for IS350-RWD and 5.7sec for IS350-AWD.

Well, I waiting for 2014 to come out. Looks nice in pictures.
Uhhh, the link has the link to the sources. Brands like Lexus and BMW usually are very conservative with performance figures.
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
If I were looking for a car like the IS, I wouldn't even look at a TL.
+1 can't compare the two.
Old 02-03-13, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
If I were looking for a car like the IS, I wouldn't even look at a TL.
The only 2 worth looking are MDX and highly anticipated NSX. LOL
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If you are going to compare the new IS to the old TL then that is not exactly a fair comparison. A new TLX will be out late this year and that is what you should compare with. It should have Honda's Earth Dreams V6 with direct injection. Honda is pretty secretive so there is not any definitive info out there yet.
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yeah, thats why I am waiting for 2014 cars, a lot of models are changing.
Did not realize that Lexus under reports their 0-60 times.
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Originally Posted by TXDriver
If you are going to compare the new IS to the old TL then that is not exactly a fair comparison. A new TLX will be out late this year and that is what you should compare with. It should have Honda's Earth Dreams V6 with direct injection. Honda is pretty secretive so there is not any definitive info out there yet.
Is the new TSX going to be RWD/rear biased AWD? If not IMHO its not really competitive with the IS IMHO.
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
Is the new TSX going to be RWD/rear biased AWD? If not IMHO its not really competitive with the IS IMHO.
I personally like current TL Sh-AWD handling, it's on par with Germans. The problem is the steering feel. It feels a bit numb, but overall package is very nice. I don't really feel understeer at the corner even though you claimed it's a front biased AWD, That's probably because my 2006 IS250 has too much understeering.
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Just to me when I drive an Acura it feels like a FWD car, Audis are sort of the same way.
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Originally Posted by SW10ES
Just to me when I drive an Acura it feels like a FWD car, Audis are sort of the same way.
I agree that they are similar to FWD because more power to the front wheels, but TL doesn't understeer like a FWD. The car feel more neutral when corning.
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The TL is a very nice car (I owned an '04 TL), especially with SH-AWD, but it is a bit long in the tooth. I would choose it over the 2IS but not over the 3IS... at least until I've had the chance to see it in person and drive it. I've test driven the latest TL and it's a decent driver. Based on the SH-AWD in the '05 RL I owned, you have to be going through a 90 degree curve at insane speeds to really appreciate it. A RWD car always feels more balanced.
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Originally Posted by TXDriver
If you are going to compare the new IS to the old TL then that is not exactly a fair comparison. A new TLX will be out late this year and that is what you should compare with. It should have Honda's Earth Dreams V6 with direct injection. Honda is pretty secretive so there is not any definitive info out there yet.
Still fwd, still accord based and the IS is built in Japan. All the data shown from Honda is the Tl is compared mostly to their own accord the the Camry. Only on the internetz do people really compare. The gap between Lexus and Acura continues to widen. The ILX is a terrible indication of the future and the rlx is going to flop again.

Lexus didn't try to make the ES sporty and add Awd. They introduced a proper RWD car in the IS nearly 15 years ago.

There will clearly be TLx buyers but I don't think many today have much confidence in the brand.
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Need to remember that this is lexus forum, so there is going to be some bias. No question lexus is more upscale car than acura, but similarly equipied is 350 awd costs more than acura tl shawd, i can buy acura tl shawd tech package for 38-39 k, similarly equiped is 350 awd will be 5 k more. So it also comes down to value you get for your money. J
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Originally Posted by InfamousQ
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With front wheel biased SH-AWD, the car tends to understeer in the handling department. The SH-AWD isn't as good as it claims to be either, having seen one spin out on the highway in the middle of winter is uterly hilarious on a long stretch straight roads. The best awd systems comes from the likes of Audi, Infiniti, Lexus & few others, just not Acura.

The quality of the vehicle is lacking for a luxury brand, most would agree it's just basically a rebadge honda. Example is evident in canada with he CSX (rebadge honda civic with leather option), TSX is the eurospec Accord (TL used to be the rebadge eurospec Accord)
How does the AWD system in the Lexus IS350 work? Is the car essentially RWD and then when slippage is detected... power is sent to the front axle?
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Originally Posted by tolian21
Need to remember that this is lexus forum, so there is going to be some bias. No question lexus is more upscale car than acura, but similarly equipied is 350 awd costs more than acura tl shawd, i can buy acura tl shawd tech package for 38-39 k, similarly equiped is 350 awd will be 5 k more. So it also comes down to value you get for your money. J
Just priced a TL with AWD and tech on the Acura site and the price is $44,604. An IS350 AWD with nav and similar equipment is similarly priced.


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