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Old 06-25-13, 12:05 AM
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I bought 4 new rotors for my '06 IS350 from Adam's Rotors. As the title says, they are too small. I didn't realize how small they actually were until I swapped them out on my front driver side and my buddy noticed it. I didn't think it would really be a problem until I put my finger behind the one brake pad and noticed that the pad is not fully on the rotor. By that I mean only 75% of the pad is covering the rotor, and since the rotor is too small, there is overhang. I don't think I am able to adjust the position of the caliper, or am I?

Not trashing on Adam's Rotors what so ever, excellent service and product. I am assuming this is just a hick-up of some kind. If you guys have no solution for me I will contact Adam and see whats up.

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This pic is my old rotor underneath and my new one on top to show the size difference. It looks way worse in person.




Side by side. Looks like the original rotor has a metal ring of about an inch between the contact area and the hub. The dings are from me having to hammer it to get it loose lol

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Definitely the wrong rotor size. Contact Adam's to see what's up
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Originally Posted by lopaka07
Definitely the wrong rotor size. Contact Adam's to see what's up
Thanks, will do!
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Why did you hammer your rotor? There are two bolt holes (see arrows) put there specifically so you don't have to do something so foolish to remove the rotors. You just thread bolts into the two holes and it pushes off the rotor without damaging the wheel bearings in the hub. When you beat on the rotor like this, you dent the bearings.

And yes, they sent you the wrong rotors for your car. Do not even try to run them.
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Looks like you got IS250 rotors instead of IS350. Definitely going to need the proper rotors. Don't drive on those.
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Actually, do you think its safe to put my old rotor back on after i trashed it with a hammer...?
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Originally Posted by gFREAKy
Actually, do you think its safe to put my old rotor back on after i trashed it with a hammer...?
No. Not safe at all.
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Originally Posted by gFREAKy
Actually, do you think its safe to put my old rotor back on after i trashed it with a hammer...?
I wouldn't... As the previous poster pointed out, you may have damaged the wheel bearings as well.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Why did you hammer your rotor? There are two bolt holes (see arrows) put there specifically so you don't have to do something so foolish to remove the rotors. You just thread bolts into the two holes and it pushes off the rotor without damaging the wheel bearings in the hub. When you beat on the rotor like this, you dent the bearings.

And yes, they sent you the wrong rotors for your car. Do not even try to run them.
I eventually got the rotor off using a bolt hole. I hammered the rotor to try and knock it off earlier because I was unable to find a bolt that fit. I finally found a bolt in my neighbors garage and popped my rotor off.

I am actually 100% sure I ordered the right sized rotors. Just gotta find the receipt.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Why did you hammer your rotor? There are two bolt holes (see arrows) put there specifically so you don't have to do something so foolish to remove the rotors. You just thread bolts into the two holes and it pushes off the rotor without damaging the wheel bearings in the hub. When you beat on the rotor like this, you dent the bearings.

And yes, they sent you the wrong rotors for your car. Do not even try to run them.
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I wouldn't... As the previous poster pointed out, you may have damaged the wheel bearings as well.
I don't think I smacked it THAT hard, but how can I tell if I damaged the bearings? I'm definitely not riding on it though.. Just gonna throw the old rotor back on and let it chill. Sucks cuz its my only car...
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Originally Posted by gFREAKy
I eventually got the rotor off using a bolt hole. I hammered the rotor to try and knock it off earlier because I was unable to find a bolt that fit. I finally found a bolt in my neighbors garage and popped my rotor off.

I am actually 100% sure I ordered the right sized rotors. Just gotta find the receipt.
Based on the damage I can see to your previous rotors in the above photos, those are not safe to put back on the car. And again, as lobuxracer pointed out, I would have the hub and bearings inspected as well.

Edit - rotate the hub assembly and listen for any grinding noises and feel for friction. I would really suggest having a professional inspect them though.
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Originally Posted by Crispy
Based on the damage I can see to your previous rotors in the above photos, those are not safe to put back on the car. And again, as lobuxracer pointed out, I would have the hub and bearings inspected as well.

Edit - rotate the hub assembly and listen for any grinding noises and feel for friction. I would really suggest having a professional inspect them though.
Well as of right now when I spin the wheel (its 4:30 am so I'm not about to take the wheel off) there is a lot of friction and noise... BUT it was only frictiony and noisy after I re-attached the caliper, I may not have compressed the pistons as far as I should have. When it was just the rotor on the hub, it spun perfectly fine and noise free.
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Originally Posted by gFREAKy
Well as of right now when I spin the wheel (its 4:30 am so I'm not about to take the wheel off) there is a lot of friction and noise... BUT it was only frictiony and noisy after I re-attached the caliper, I may not have compressed the pistons as far as I should have. When it was just the rotor on the hub, it spun perfectly fine and noise free.
I'm not a mechanic, but you shouldn't hear any grinding or feel friction as long as the pads are not making contact with the rotor. After you get the correct rotors installed and you set the pads and calipers correctly, if you still have any friction or noise I would recommend you get it checked out promptly.

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Originally Posted by Crispy
I'm not a mechanic, but you should't hear any grinding or feel friction as long as the pads are not making contact with the rotor. After you get the correct rotors installed and you set the pads and calipers correctly, if you still have any friction or noise I would recommend you get it checked out promptly.
I think the pads are contacting the rotor. I will update tomorrow when I have time to remove the wheel, which will be a problem because I just stripped a lug trying to take my wheel off...

Thanks again everyone on CL, best car forum around. Appreciate it.
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why you hummring the old rotor......you not having a drum man...it's a disk and once you take off the pads and the cliper brake base and the washer " brass or steel " lock from the bolt it's easily get out by hands

check the pads if the pads completly contact the rotor it's ok and fit in the bearing ...don't worry about the size

if not even by 1mm........gonna make a big problem

you can use the old rotor but keep in mind you need to change the pads when you need to pun new rotor....and the brake wont be that good

if there is a machine for the old rotor do it "if it not completly damge cos the hard hummring

make sure you lose the hand brake "the padel inside the car is in open position " to remove and install the rear disk easily

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